EVE General Discussion

And people tell ME I'm abrasive.

I don't think "IF" should be in this post, but I know nothing about implementing this feature.

I agree with the OP, the addition of this feature would make it much more useful and fun.

Also, making it so that the buttons can be used while you are using your overview to select targets would be cool as well. This type of feature could change the entire way a pilot interfaces with their environment, it an awesome way!

Wow, I feel sorry for the dev who posted in here. Certian people have been plain rude. WASD controls were implemented a few months ago, after not having been present for years. The lack of a camera lock does feel like a massive oversight with them, but at the same time, they are far inferior to the point camera and click method of piloting due to how information is presented in game, except in extremely rare cases. This is not a knock on other games or an attempt to claim that "eve does it better". It is a statement based on how information is presented in eve, and the speed of combat. If a camera lock feature were well implemented, and would still have the ability to look around when necessary, and right click on targets when doing so, it might make WASD controls usable. I can promise that if this is poorly implemented it will be completely useless even to the people that want it.

As usual CCP doesn't just have to weigh the benefit of such a feature, but also weigh it against other features in terms of development time. Speaking to a CCP employee as if he is somehow ignorant or not contributing does not help at all. Posts like this discourage further discourse between the company and the players, and we've seen how poor communication works out in the past.

Hey, so it just occurred to me that locking the camera to your ship would change the flight controls.

Right now, the camera stays level with the horizon, and your WASD coincides with pitch and yaw. (effectively). locking the camera to the ship for roll means WASD would become pitch and roll.

WASD flight controls right now may look like you're rolling, but you're really just yawing.

The problem with roll is it doesn't register with the game, so until you apply pitch to a roll, you've wasted some pilotage (and time) on something that doesn't affect your damage mitigation or application.

To put it simply, rolling left or right is ineffective, compared to yaw which results in an immediate change in velocity.

That said, I think it would be very cool to lock the camera to your ship, and have roll rather than yaw, or full atmospheric flight style controls.

1) Saw that CCP finally allows players to sort of steer their ship.

2) Bought one month to see if they had added locked camera in the hopes that maybe they had woken up and realized that player experience is more important than a hand full of tools egos.

3) Saw they did not, will not be keeping subbed as a direct result.

If I were CCP I'd stop listening to the stagnant cesspool of douche bags they've built this game around and start making some thing worth playing.

But hey, I don't work on a largely inconsequential game with a generally hated community.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sioZd3AxmnE Start With Why: a TED Talk by Simon Sinek.

Or, why the greed is good letter continues to hurt CCP.

Definitely a solid feature needed for manual control and would also give cinematic video people more options for making awesome EVE videos.

That topic was locked automatically by the forum software due to inactivity for 90 days. Which says something about the backing that idea got in 2011.
However, as there now is a new and open thread in the proper part of the forum discussing the topic of this thread as a possible addition to EvE (among other things), this thread will get a lock.

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