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Setting up a moon harvesting array?
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Mal-Ak Lah
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-02-09 12:44:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Mal-Ak Lah
Hi, SO i just recently heard about these moon harvesting arrays and I was wondering if its at all profitable and what should be taken into consideration if someone would ever get into this?

And yes, Im a relatively new player but so I dont have any idea about how this works so I might be dreaming about something way too huge without thinking about it so be nice :P
Kiddoomer
The Red Sequence
#2 - 2015-02-09 13:01:50 UTC
The first thing with these moon harvesting arrays is that they can only be used in low/null sec (0.4 and lower).

Second you'll need to be able to have a POS in there to use them, and have silos and reactions arrays for the materials harvested.

It can be lucrative and interesting to do, but you'll need to be able to defend a POS in low-sec at least, not that easy to do.

In the name of Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen : “Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.”
Mal-Ak Lah
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-02-09 13:07:47 UTC
Kiddoomer wrote:
The first thing with these moon harvesting arrays is that they can only be used in low/null sec (0.4 and lower).

Second you'll need to be able to have a POS in there to use them, and have silos and reactions arrays for the materials harvested.

It can be lucrative and interesting to do, but you'll need to be able to defend a POS in low-sec at least, not that easy to do.


How much of an investment would it need, you think?
Samsara Toldya
Academy of Contradictory Behaviour
#4 - 2015-02-09 13:18:33 UTC
Mal-Ak Lah wrote:
How much of an investment would it need, you think?

~1b ISK for POS

You might want to spend that amount per week if you fail to defend your POS against hostile capitals. Maybe twice a week.
As stated, the invest is small, defending your assets is the hard part and can't be done alone.
Kiddoomer
The Red Sequence
#5 - 2015-02-09 13:19:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiddoomer
I have no idea, but I guess you'll need a medium POS at least, 1 or 2 moon harvesting array and some silos with reactors, with the reactions blueprint. With that you'll surely need some batteries and electronic warfare modules too.

So with eve-central and jita price, I got 170M for the medium gallente POS (which 100% bonus to silo capacity), 23M for each tech I moon harvesting array, 7M per silo (no idea how many you need), different kind of reactors going around 10M.
Add to that POS ecm web and turrets and you'll need around 50M mroe maybe.

EDIT : completely forgot about Fuel and stronthium, this cost around 400-500M per month for a medium tower.

In the name of Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen : “Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.”
Mal-Ak Lah
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2015-02-09 13:31:45 UTC
Kiddoomer wrote:
I have no idea, but I guess you'll need a medium POS at least, 1 or 2 moon harvesting array and some silos with reactors, with the reactions blueprint. With that you'll surely need some batteries and electronic warfare modules too.

So with eve-central and jita price, I got 170M for the medium gallente POS (which 100% bonus to silo capacity), 23M for each tech I moon harvesting array, 7M per silo (no idea how many you need), different kind of reactors going around 10M.
Add to that POS ecm web and turrets and you'll need around 50M mroe maybe.

EDIT : completely forgot about Fuel and stronthium, this cost around 400-500M per month for a medium tower.


how much is the yield? I mean how much minerals does it give/h?
Nalena Linova
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-02-09 13:57:47 UTC
The issue with moon mining is that every moon that is worth mining is already being mined. There aren't many moon materials that are worth more than the fuel cost of running the POS, and pretty much 100% of those moons are claimed.

What you can do, is mine a lower class moon material with a large POS to offset some of the fuel costs, then also run reactions with the POS, which can make decent money in lowsec.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#8 - 2015-02-09 20:27:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Nalena Linova wrote:
The issue with moon mining is that every moon that is worth mining is already being mined. There aren't many moon materials that are worth more than the fuel cost of running the POS, and pretty much 100% of those moons are claimed.

What you can do, is mine a lower class moon material with a large POS to offset some of the fuel costs, then also run reactions with the POS, which can make decent money in lowsec.

^^ This.

About the best one can expect do is things like carbides, and a sharp eye will note that the carbide market closely follows the fuel prices which are the majority of the cost.

I've done hybrid polymer reactions, but stopped when that became unprofitable. A corpmate did the same. Another corpmate had 10 lowsec towers for a while doing carbides, but stopped because it was a lot of effort for the amount of ISK.

He also lost the first batch of lowsec towers within 24 hours of them being anchored, but made a deal with the lowsec locals before replacing the towers. All the locals demanded was that the POS not attack them, which was easy to accommodate.
Phig Neutron
Starbreaker and Sons
#9 - 2015-02-09 20:29:32 UTC
At best you're going to break even on the moon goo (assuming you don't have an alliance granting you a high-value moon), but I would imagine it could be a profitable "bonus" to help pay for POS fuel if you're already going to be running a POS for some other reason (manufacturing, labs, or just a safespot in a dangerous system). I mean if you're going to set up a POS in a system and there are a hundred moons, several of which have goo that nobody's mining, might as well pick one of those for your POS.