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Mining - Are there really pirates out there ?

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Nevil Oscillator
#1 - 2015-02-09 11:42:36 UTC
I have been mining in high sec for many months and there hasn't been any attacks on my mining ship.
Everything I read about mining says you must tank your ship to the max and forget about yield.
Is this because they don't want your cheap frigate to be able to compete with their expensive barge ?
Lets factor in that you might be a target , well maybe most mining ships just aren't ?

Anyway this all changed yesterday or did it ? A Gallente battlecruiser Myrmidon decided to warp scramble my barge.
What's this Arrggh ! I'm getting ganked I thought to myself , hitting the shield boost in panic.
I recalled my mining drones and waited for the impact.
It never came, a short while later the assailant was in a capsule surrounded by Concord Ships.
I targeted the capsule and launched my combat drones as he sat there looking confused.com
For some reason the criminal status of the capsule wasn't showing on my overview setup so I let him go.
Unfortunately because I didn't activate any offensive modules against him , I have no kill mail. His wreck contained Hammerhaed 2 Combat Drones which he hadn't even launched so this is no newb.

My only conclusion is that he hadn't realized that he had left low sec,. We all make those bad decisions every now and then and probably more often if you spend your even life in constant low sec danger.

So this leaves me wondering , are mining ships really in danger in high sec ?
Juan Diolosa
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-02-09 11:49:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Juan Diolosa
In the off chance you are not trolling... As of this post, according to ZKill there have been 40 miners killed in HiSec today. You tell me if there are pirates.

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#3 - 2015-02-09 11:49:48 UTC
If you weren't before. You may be after the pirates read this post of yours.

And you're not safe anywhere, sometimes by pilots who want to get your loot, other times for fun. Best protection is a bit of thinking and an open eye.

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Nevil Oscillator
#4 - 2015-02-09 11:58:07 UTC
Yeah yeah those scary forum pirates who have you convinced they are dangerous and convinced I am trolling.
Nevil Oscillator
#5 - 2015-02-09 12:03:20 UTC
Juan Diolosa wrote:
. As of this post, according to ZKill there have been 40 miners killed in HiSec today. You tell me if there are pirates.


Interesting statistic, , I don't know if they are pirates or engaged in some war or something perhaps ?
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#6 - 2015-02-09 12:06:23 UTC
With the amount of nerfs directed at highsec piracy and buffs to safety, ganking is much harder to profit from than before, so fewer people do it. This dramatic increase of isk/risk in highsec is a bad thing.

The gankers are still out there though. Do not use your personal anecdotes as conclusive evidence.
Leannor
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-02-09 12:13:05 UTC
sounds more like a bait gone wrong ... lol

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-02-09 12:15:35 UTC
Well, either your barge was tanky enough or the gankers really sucked at ganking.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Nevil Oscillator
#9 - 2015-02-09 12:23:07 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
Well, either your barge was tanky enough or the gankers really sucked at ganking.



I don't think it was a gank, I think it was a genuine mistake
Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2015-02-09 12:34:52 UTC
I don't mine anymore but back when I did (with a 4 alt fleet). I was never ganked. Either I was lucky or it was because I didn't seem like the best target.

So I could easily make the assumption that the danger of being ganked is overstated and I would say that if you play smart it is something that you can avoid somewhat. But judging from the complaints I would see daily in the mining channel I was in, and on the forums, the danger is very real.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#11 - 2015-02-09 12:47:57 UTC
being not a good enough target doesn't matter, ive seen ventures ganked for mining, ill run a locator later and send what you seek

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Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-02-09 12:56:08 UTC
Agondray wrote:
being not a good enough target doesn't matter, ive seen ventures ganked for mining, ill run a locator later and send what you seek
On the other hand being an undesirable target does make a difference to the likelihood of exploding, gankers tend to go for the low hanging fruit first; given the choice of a few tanked up to the eyeballs miners and multiple untanked and possibly afk miners in the same belt or anom, they'll hit the latter over the former.

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Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2015-02-09 13:14:00 UTC
Most ganks are usually centered around a small pocket around Caldari space due to lolcode living there. Mining 30j away from Caldari space is usually large enough of a barrier to see gankers maybe once per month.
Nevil Oscillator
#14 - 2015-02-09 13:34:45 UTC
Agondray wrote:
being not a good enough target doesn't matter, ive seen ventures ganked for mining, ill run a locator later and send what you seek


Yeah lol you do that.. but I can't guarantee you will find what you seek
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#15 - 2015-02-09 13:48:45 UTC
Op, why is your corp killboard so red? I hope it's nod because some illegal mining

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#16 - 2015-02-09 13:50:04 UTC
Juan Diolosa wrote:
In the off chance you are not trolling... As of this post, according to ZKill there have been 40 miners killed in HiSec today. You tell me if there are pirates.


40...

You mean all this massive, decades long over-exaggerated hurf blurf by miners is over so small a daily death ratio? According to forum posting miners, ganks are so incredibly common that somehow Null Sec (the place with no magically spawning space police) is the safer option compared to high sec (the place that does have magically spawning space police).


40...
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#17 - 2015-02-09 13:51:21 UTC
Ganks are pretty rare. They just make a lot of noise over them so it appears ganking is more prolific than it is.

It also helps to have your mining ship tanked enough that a single random roaming ganker can't pop you. The more people are needed to go through your tank and the farther you are from a trade route or popular mining system, the less likely a gank is going to happen.

If that's still not good enough, go mining in mission deadspace.

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Captain John Redner
Doomheim
#18 - 2015-02-09 13:53:39 UTC
Pirates are definatly out there. Just won't find them in highsec.

Gankers are a very real threat, but you can fit your cheap venture for max yield. Chances are you will pay for your ship many times over before you loose it to code or the like.

Fly a ways off the beacon when you first land in a feild. Pay attention. If someone comes in your feild and starts heading right for you, get out.

Darth Terona
Chal0ner
Hideaway Hunters
The Hideaway.
#19 - 2015-02-09 13:55:45 UTC
Chribba wrote:
If you weren't before. You may be after the pirates read this post of yours.


You beat me to the comment Ugh
AeonOfTime
Syrkos Technologies
#20 - 2015-02-09 13:55:48 UTC
Nevil Oscillator wrote:
I don't think it was a gank, I think it was a genuine mistake


Did you try asking him/her?

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