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Last Mirror & Next Mirror ?

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Zamory
Alpha Centauri Corp
#1 - 2015-02-07 01:39:46 UTC
Like the title says, does anyone know when the last Mirror was taken ? And when will the next one be ?
CCP Habakuk
C C P
C C P Alliance
#2 - 2015-02-07 02:07:50 UTC
Last mirror: November 27th, 2014
Next mirror: Soon, more details probably on Monday.

CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five 0 | (Team Gridlock)

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Lair Osen
#3 - 2015-02-07 06:08:58 UTC
You know you can copy skills without a mirror now? Why do you need a mirror?
Rajeet Achmar
Rajeet Achmar Corporation
#4 - 2015-02-07 08:02:05 UTC
Lair Osen wrote:
You know you can copy skills without a mirror now? Why do you need a mirror?


For most people its for characters they didnt own or that were in transfer to another character.
Darkblad
Doomheim
#5 - 2015-02-07 08:19:00 UTC
A refresh of sell orders/contracts also is something that helps greatly. Some items are not seeded and it's difficult to get a hold of them otherwise.

NPE – ISD – RIP
Zamory
Alpha Centauri Corp
#6 - 2015-02-07 10:37:02 UTC
CCP Habakuk wrote:
Last mirror: November 27th, 2014
Next mirror: Soon, more details probably on Monday.

Thank you, i highly appreciate your responses ! c:
Zamory
Alpha Centauri Corp
#7 - 2015-02-07 10:41:17 UTC
Lair Osen wrote:
You know you can copy skills without a mirror now? Why do you need a mirror?


I'm planning on building a Supercarrier on SISI, and would like to set up a POS & gather all the material for it, knowing it'll take about 30 days to JUST build the carrier & further 35 days (aprox) for my skills to be complete. Although now i won't need to worry about skills i guess, due to the "/copyskills " command ! ^^
Although, it says that only my "fully trained skills" will be copied, does this mean that Only my skills that i've trained to Level 5 will be copied ? Not quite sure how it'll work :/
Darkblad
Doomheim
#8 - 2015-02-07 11:03:21 UTC
Zamory wrote:
Lair Osen wrote:
You know you can copy skills without a mirror now? Why do you need a mirror?


I'm planning on building a Supercarrier on SISI, and would like to set up a POS & gather all the material for it, knowing it'll take about 30 days to JUST build the carrier & further 35 days (aprox) for my skills to be complete. Although now i won't need to worry about skills i guess, due to the "/copyskills " command ! ^^
Although, it says that only my "fully trained skills" will be copied, does this mean that Only my skills that i've trained to Level 5 will be copied ? Not quite sure how it'll work :/

Fully trained levels of a skill. You also will have to login to your character on TQ before the data gets saved and therefore available for that feature. As I understood it, that data gets saved each day.

NPE – ISD – RIP
Zamory
Alpha Centauri Corp
#9 - 2015-02-07 11:23:49 UTC
Darkblad wrote:
Zamory wrote:
Lair Osen wrote:
You know you can copy skills without a mirror now? Why do you need a mirror?


I'm planning on building a Supercarrier on SISI, and would like to set up a POS & gather all the material for it, knowing it'll take about 30 days to JUST build the carrier & further 35 days (aprox) for my skills to be complete. Although now i won't need to worry about skills i guess, due to the "/copyskills " command ! ^^
Although, it says that only my "fully trained skills" will be copied, does this mean that Only my skills that i've trained to Level 5 will be copied ? Not quite sure how it'll work :/

Fully trained levels of a skill. You also will have to login to your character on TQ before the data gets saved and therefore available for that feature. As I understood it, that data gets saved each day.


I will try it right now, I've already used the command on the SISI server, signing into TQ just like you mentioned. ^^
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#10 - 2015-02-08 19:04:26 UTC
You seem to have it backwards.

First you log TQ, which will then save a snapshot of your skills.

Then you log SiSi and can copy that snapshot over onto your SiSi character.
Zamory
Alpha Centauri Corp
#11 - 2015-02-09 01:10:55 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
You seem to have it backwards.

First you log TQ, which will then save a snapshot of your skills.

Then you log SiSi and can copy that snapshot over onto your SiSi character.



I tried it, and it did work, it copied 7 skills. Was afraid it'd reset the skills that were NOT maxed for some reason, but it didn't do that c: Was slightly paranoid though! ^^
CCP Habakuk
C C P
C C P Alliance
#12 - 2015-02-09 20:16:33 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Habakuk
Short update: A new mirror is being prepared and will be deployed to Singularity within the next few days, but the day is not confirmed yet.

CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five 0 | (Team Gridlock)

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Ghaustyl Kathix
Rising Thunder
#13 - 2015-02-10 04:33:25 UTC
We'll get warning before the mirror itself happens, though, right?
Zamory
Alpha Centauri Corp
#14 - 2015-02-10 12:16:56 UTC
CCP Habakuk wrote:
Short update: A new mirror is being prepared and will be deployed to Singularity within the next few days, but the day is not confirmed yet.

That is amazing news !!
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#15 - 2015-02-10 14:58:31 UTC
Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:
We'll get warning before the mirror itself happens, though, right?


Depends what you mean? So, we usually update the mirror as part of a regular downtime. In that respect, you'll get the warning of the downtime timer. We may also post on the forums when we're applying it, but that's usually a couple of hours warning at best. If you mean the date that we take the snapshot on TQ, that's already happened.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
Ghaustyl Kathix
Rising Thunder
#16 - 2015-02-10 17:31:13 UTC
I meant telling the players in advance what day the mirror will be applied to the test server.
CCP Habakuk
C C P
C C P Alliance
#17 - 2015-02-11 11:35:52 UTC
Singularity is going down in 15 minutes for this mirror.

CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five 0 | (Team Gridlock)

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CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#18 - 2015-02-11 11:37:32 UTC
Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:
I meant telling the players in advance what day the mirror will be applied to the test server.


Essentially the process as is goes like this:
- EVE QA request a new "master" mirror. From request to creation usually takes somewhere between 2 days and a working week.
- A "slave" of the master mirror is created for use on a test server (in this case Sisi)
- Some processing work is done on the new slave mirror, which we commonly refer to as "pruning". This is removing all of the sensitive info, like POS positions and setups, scrambling moon minerals, removing standings reqs from outposts, etc. This process can take a few days.
- Ops let us know the mirror is ready for use
- We apply the mirror to Sisi

We don't like to inform players as to when we are going to take the snapshot, as that might cause them to play differently on TQ. Following the creation of the master, I don't necessarily see what the benefit to informing people would be, but obviously I won't have considered all possible use cases, so if you can tell me the value in it we can definitely look into it.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
Aroused Missile
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2015-02-11 13:17:01 UTC
CCP Habakuk wrote:
Singularity is going down in 15 minutes for this mirror.



How long is the server usually offline for?
Romana Erebus
Syndicate Enterprise
Sigma Grindset
#20 - 2015-02-11 13:21:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Romana Erebus
CCP Goliath wrote:
Ghaustyl Kathix wrote:
I meant telling the players in advance what day the mirror will be applied to the test server.


Essentially the process as is goes like this:
- EVE QA request a new "master" mirror. From request to creation usually takes somewhere between 2 days and a working week.
- A "slave" of the master mirror is created for use on a test server (in this case Sisi)
- Some processing work is done on the new slave mirror, which we commonly refer to as "pruning". This is removing all of the sensitive info, like POS positions and setups, scrambling moon minerals, removing standings reqs from outposts, etc. This process can take a few days.
- Ops let us know the mirror is ready for use
- We apply the mirror to Sisi

We don't like to inform players as to when we are going to take the snapshot, as that might cause them to play differently on TQ. Following the creation of the master, I don't necessarily see what the benefit to informing people would be, but obviously I won't have considered all possible use cases, so if you can tell me the value in it we can definitely look into it.




PEOPLE ONLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE DATE OF THE MIRROR IS SO THEY CAN DIRTY BUM RUSH JITA FOR SHINY MODS Keep it as is. Actually go back to just saying SOON. Because when you drop definitive dates you end up with these .
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6513&p=40
People dding things on station because the mirror is tommorrow and such. If the copyskills thing is going to be working people really have no reason to whine for new mirrors. With the exceptions of new accounts or transferred toons.
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