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To kill a blockade runner
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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#21 - 2011-12-18 00:28:59 UTC
Ynot Eyob wrote:
A Sebo HIC should do the job really. Can tank gate guns if needed, have the range on the scram, but you do need to get as close to 2500 scan res which you problally need a remote sepo partner for.

Iv lost 2 viators on another toon, and in both ocations it was a HIC catching me.


In b4, Eve operates in 1sec ticks. You only caught increditerribad BR pilots like that. You can not lock before the BR cloaks.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Milonia
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
#22 - 2011-12-18 05:50:55 UTC
Salcon Cliff wrote:

Any half-way experienced pilot will most likely chose a DST for CO duties. The cloak on a BR won't work next to a CO anyway, but a DST with +2 stabs (or more) with a MWD can often tank a HIC bubble long enough to escape and also stave off a couple of points.



You are wrong in that respect. I use mt Crane for PI all the time. You warp to the CO at 10km cloaked. You set your keep at range to 2400 meters. Once your ship gets to 2400 meter you are in transfer range but ouf of decloak range.

So you can uncloak, grab PI mats and recloak in 5 seconds.

I have NEVER been caught. Obviously you look in directional as well.
Milonia
APEX Unlimited
APEX Conglomerate
#23 - 2011-12-18 05:52:43 UTC
Anvil44 wrote:

Quite possible. I've been playing Eve for more than 2 years and only learned 2 weeks ago that you can cloak first. So there is no doubt many others that don't know this as well. Either that or I'm just a real slow learner...Roll



You can be a 2003 character veteren and not know this because this changed recently. it used to be you HAD to MWD THEN cloak.

I don't know when it changed I think it was Incarna or Incursion maybe? Either way it has helped BRs
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
#24 - 2011-12-20 23:16:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Esrevid Nekkeg
Milonia wrote:
Salcon Cliff wrote:

Any half-way experienced pilot will most likely chose a DST for CO duties. The cloak on a BR won't work next to a CO anyway, but a DST with +2 stabs (or more) with a MWD can often tank a HIC bubble long enough to escape and also stave off a couple of points.



You are wrong in that respect. I use mt Crane for PI all the time. You warp to the CO at 10km cloaked. You set your keep at range to 2400 meters. Once your ship gets to 2400 meter you are in transfer range but ouf of decloak range.

So you can uncloak, grab PI mats and recloak in 5 seconds.

I have NEVER been caught. Obviously you look in directional as well.
With the new CO mechanics introduced in Crucible it is even easier.
Warp to 10km cloaked, use D-scan, align to a celestial at a path that takes you within 2500 meters from the CO but not on a collision course, open your ships cargo hold, right click on the CO to open the submenu and hover your mouse over the 'open CO' option, when within 2500 meters hit the cloak/decloak hot-key(i.e the module hot-key), left click to open the CO, grab the goods you want from the left side of the CO interface and drop them into your cargo hold, hit the warp hot-key.
Warp initiates immediately, cloak can be applied again during warp at your leisure.
The time that I am vulnerable in my Prorator getting goods out of a CO is less than a second.

This is just one example on how you can effectively fly a Blockade Runner in various circumstances. So to answer the OP, if a Blockade Runner is fitted and flown well, your chances on catching one are close to zero. But, not everybody is a good Blockade Runner pilot/fitter and even the best pilots make mistakes.
I know I have.....Oops

Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format. Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
river Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2011-12-25 14:55:23 UTC
May be a silly question...but how do you make money flying these? Like what are they meant to haul?
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#26 - 2011-12-25 17:36:18 UTC
river Zateki wrote:
May be a silly question...but how do you make money flying these? Like what are they meant to haul?


You make money by accepting the 50mil reward contracts taking you to EC-P8R. They can haul anything they can fit in their cargo.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Bella Rugente
Perkone
Caldari State
#27 - 2011-12-25 18:28:05 UTC
Killing blockade runners needs at least one of the three: Luck, preparation, and stupidity. Once in a while you'll get all three, but blockade runners were designed to get past camps with bubbles, so dont expect to kill them often.
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=7472692
That had all three. We knew he was coming and dropped bubbles, decloaking cans, deployed and assigned drones (bouncing the assignments between different pilots to generally paper the area with decloaking objects). We got a little bit lucky, but mainly it was his own stupidity for flying into a camp that almost certainly was reported in his intel channels, not to mention doing so with the cargo he had on board.
I've heard, but cannot confirm, that missiles will decloak. If this is true, you could fire missiles across the gate area to a fleetmate that can tank them in order to add more clutter for the decloak. Without the decloak, only an idiot will get caught. Instacanes, sebo'd intys, whatever has never once caught me before the MWD/cloak maneuver. Thx, btw, on the new trick that you can cloak before the mwd.. never heard of it before but tested it and it's a cool trick.
Your best bets are catching somebody sloppy, either on the COs, or a drag bubble with a decloak can (even still have to be fast on the draw due to speed, agility, and the ECM burst that every BR ought to have.
Arch Raptor
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2011-12-29 20:25:29 UTC
you have about a .01% chance of getting a good covert transport pilot that is paying attention. Best bet is fast locking frigs and multiple points while bumping the ship. This is very hard to do, but it does work from time to time.

a good fit is nano-fiber haul (quicker align times), ECM burst (6km range, point outside this if possible), MWD with speed of about 1200 m/s depending on skills and burn time, and a warp core stab (why multiple points are needed). Most gate camps can easily be avoided unless you are fit specifically to counter this.

Also works for Stealth bombers too, but they TRY to fight back :)
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