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Lugh Crow-Slave
#21 - 2015-02-08 06:48:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugh Crow-Slave
Kabark wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Kabark wrote:
Tiddle Jr wrote:
If it's built in how it should be activated? Or it's a permanent mode cloacked until u activate any other module?

I would say have a cloaking button located above the F1-F8 buttons standard high slot buttons. Give it an F9 activation hotkey standard unless moved. Remove a high slot from the ship. All other cloaking standards apply.


so as stated before no different than it is now just with less choice but wait his idea also comes with the added benefit of being clunkier and requiring more dev time

I agree with you, but for the sake of fluff I thought I would indulge.


lol it's been a while since there was a blops thread so anything that keeps it on the front page




like i said b4 blops are already rather balanced and the most i think needs changing is maybe better resists and a slight change to the sin either removing its hybrid damage bonus or its agi bonus and adding in a drone tracking one

or give it a bit more armor so it is a bit more on par with a redeemer in a brawl

with that said the sin isn't bad it just doesn't fill a role as well as any of the other three

do that and BLOPS will be able to fill there role w/o being OP and without being overshadowed by some of the newly buffed recons

but to be honest i fly all but the gal one regularly and have never found myself feeling like they weren't able to fill their role of moving a fleet or providing on grid support when need be

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Kabark
Schilden
#22 - 2015-02-08 06:54:59 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Kabark wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Kabark wrote:
Tiddle Jr wrote:
If it's built in how it should be activated? Or it's a permanent mode cloacked until u activate any other module?

I would say have a cloaking button located above the F1-F8 buttons standard high slot buttons. Give it an F9 activation hotkey standard unless moved. Remove a high slot from the ship. All other cloaking standards apply.


so as stated before no different than it is now just with less choice but wait his idea also comes with the added benefit of being clunkier and requiring more dev time

I agree with you, but for the sake of fluff I thought I would indulge.


lol it's been a while since there was a blops thread so anything that keeps it on the front page




like i said b4 blops are already rather balanced and the most i think needs changing is maybe better resists and a slight change to the sin either removing its hybrid damage bonus or its agi bonus and adding in a drone tracking one

or give it a bit more armor so it is a bit more on par with a redeemer in a brawl

with that said the sin isn't bad it just doesn't fill a role as well as any of the other three

do that and BLOPS will be able to fill there role w/o being OP and without being overshadowed by the newly buffed recons(its just sad that my ecm rook gets more ehp than an ecm widow)

but to be honest i fly all but the gal one regularly and have never found myself feeling like they weren't able to fill their role of moving a fleet or providing on grid support when need be
Having only flown the Widow myself, I don't have any word on the other blops except from the outside looking in =P But I will say that in my opinion an ECM Widow is the best suited to solo ganking.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#23 - 2015-02-08 06:59:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugh Crow-Slave
Kabark wrote:
Having only flown the Widow myself, I don't have any word on the other blops except from the outside looking in =P But I will say that in my opinion an ECM Widow is the best suited to solo ganking.


you want solo ganking the redeemer or panther will suit you better if you pick your targets right if you go ecm widow and miss one round of jams your will melt against anything bigger than a t1 cruiser in most cases (however you also have the ability to jam and run if you are lucky)


but a shield widow with maybe 1-2 ecm and a full load of BCS in lows will do just as well as any redeemer and now that you can use RHML it's even stronger on cruisers and even some frigate gangs if you know what you are doing

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2015-02-08 07:02:43 UTC
Lugh, u think resists are weak on blops? Probably the tracking bonus would be good.

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#25 - 2015-02-08 07:09:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugh Crow-Slave
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Lugh, u think resists are weak on blops? Probably the tracking bonus would be good.


no not weak just that they could use a slight buff their if you felt like giving them anything more me trying to contribute an idea to blops overall

as i said i find the BLOPS to be pretty well balance and unique ships if all that is changed is a bonus or two on the sin i think the entire class will be rounded out nicely

and the small but effective buffs to the recons in pg cpu speed and even a few with a few more tank points has made it hard to justify the use of a blops rather than bridging in a few of them so i don't think resists would be unwarranted to help with survivability

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Kabark
Schilden
#26 - 2015-02-08 07:12:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Kabark
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Kabark wrote:
Having only flown the Widow myself, I don't have any word on the other blops except from the outside looking in =P But I will say that in my opinion an ECM Widow is the best suited to solo ganking.


you want solo ganking the redeemer or panther will suit you better if you pick your targets right if you go ecm widow and miss one round of jams your will melt against anything bigger than a t1 cruiser in most cases (however you also have the ability to jam and run if you are lucky)


but a shield widow with maybe 1-2 ecm and a full load of BCS in lows will do just as well as any redeemer and now that you can use RHML it's even stronger on cruisers and even some frigate gangs if you know what you are doing

Ya SISI has taught me that the Widow does melt very quick. When running gangs I always armor tanked my scorps and widow and ran logi and ecm support. Not the most orthodox fitting but it worked for small gangs. But you have a very good point, recon ships are now much more bang for the buck in this category.
The Protato
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#27 - 2015-02-08 17:31:56 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
for the most part BLOPS are very balanced with each filling its own niche as a blop and the class over all doing its niche in the game very well.


Found the guy who's never flown BLOPS
Lugh Crow-Slave
#28 - 2015-02-08 19:02:00 UTC
The Protato wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
for the most part BLOPS are very balanced with each filling its own niche as a blop and the class over all doing its niche in the game very well.


Found the guy who's never flown BLOPS


so then what major imbalance do they have?

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Lugh Crow-Slave
#29 - 2015-02-11 13:44:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugh Crow-Slave
lol how about the ability to jump to in system cynos



EDIT: actually now that we have jump fatigue would this still be as broken as it sounds?

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
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