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A different take on a war with code

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Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#101 - 2015-01-26 09:43:30 UTC
Renard Solo wrote:
Do i win a prize?
You did win a prize, but this being Eve somebody stole it before it could be given to you Pirate

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NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Renard Solo
Sublimation inc
#102 - 2015-01-26 09:55:01 UTC
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
Renard Solo wrote:
Do i win a prize?
You did win a prize, but this being Eve somebody stole it before it could be given to you Pirate



Dammit ima have to submit a ticket now lol
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#103 - 2015-01-26 20:38:45 UTC
Renard Solo wrote:
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
Renard Solo wrote:
Do i win a prize?
You did win a prize, but this being Eve somebody stole it before it could be given to you Pirate



Dammit ima have to submit a ticket now lol


Not sure you are allowed to complain much until you post with a non-NPC corp main instead of random NPC forum alt.
Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#104 - 2015-01-26 22:11:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Concord Guy's Cousin
Veers Belvar wrote:
Renard Solo wrote:
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
Renard Solo wrote:
Do i win a prize?
You did win a prize, but this being Eve somebody stole it before it could be given to you Pirate



Dammit ima have to submit a ticket now lol


Not sure you are allowed to complain much until you post with a non-NPC corp main instead of random NPC forum alt.
Who you post with is nowhere near as important as what you post.

You, for example, are in a non NPC corp, but your posting is so terrible we ridicule you anyway.

ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"

NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Vapor Ventrillian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#105 - 2015-01-27 01:20:45 UTC
Well put good sir o7

Your point is excellent however your audience is wrong

The people who give ganker alliances their content are not reading forms, have no understanding as to what suicide ganking is and simply play the Game as the basic game

What we walk into is the "meta game" of high sec and like most politics and beliefs this goes right over their head and so I do what any good Samaritan would do and cloak up sneak up on them and pop up next to them and explain why using a hulk ONE JUMP FROM UEDEMA IS A FLIPPING BAD ID...EvilShocked

hrrmm excuse my outburst Oops some points to make

1-language barriers
2-they plex and don't give a crappers
3-they are code and are simply fleshing out their kill boards so they can remain in the upper echelons of their alliance
4-risk vs profit closer to gank systems you go the more ore you will find
5- they believe that the A.G will defend them (They are a long ways from that)

The answer is that both the extremist of the Code. and the white knights are as bad as each other and the project is starting a dialogue between the moderates of the two groups to pull their crazies into line

and then let the cat and mouse game begin...um mabe the cat, the mouse and the cheese game Idea

The Evil Overlord of Scope, self elected as all good overlords should be
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
#106 - 2015-01-27 08:05:53 UTC
Off-topic, but wanted to post how refreshing C&P threads sometimes are - feels nice not to read GD flame fests XD
Renard Solo
Sublimation inc
#107 - 2015-01-27 08:19:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Renard Solo
Veers Belvar wrote:
Renard Solo wrote:
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
Renard Solo wrote:
Do i win a prize?
You did win a prize, but this being Eve somebody stole it before it could be given to you Pirate



Dammit ima have to submit a ticket now lol


Not sure you are allowed to complain much until you post with a non-NPC corp main instead of random NPC forum alt.



Sorry no alt just quite new and taking my time. I also quite like the folks ive met in the starter corp so why hustle off? Nice troll attempt tho but not the best. Playing eve the way i want, doing what i fancy at the tine lol.
Renard Solo
Sublimation inc
#108 - 2015-01-27 08:26:09 UTC
Vapor Ventrillian wrote:
Well put good sir o7

Your point is excellent however your audience is wrong

The people who give ganker alliances their content are not reading forms, have no understanding as to what suicide ganking is and simply play the Game as the basic game

What we walk into is the "meta game" of high sec and like most politics and beliefs this goes right over their head and so I do what any good Samaritan would do and cloak up sneak up on them and pop up next to them and explain why using a hulk ONE JUMP FROM UEDEMA IS A FLIPPING BAD ID...EvilShocked

hrrmm excuse my outburst Oops some points to make

1-language barriers
2-they plex and don't give a crappers
3-they are code and are simply fleshing out their kill boards so they can remain in the upper echelons of their alliance
4-risk vs profit closer to gank systems you go the more ore you will find
5- they believe that the A.G will defend them (They are a long ways from that)

The answer is that both the extremist of the Code. and the white knights are as bad as each other and the project is starting a dialogue between the moderates of the two groups to pull their crazies into line

and then let the cat and mouse game begin...um mabe the cat, the mouse and the cheese game Idea



Thankyou good fellow o7
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#109 - 2015-01-27 09:54:43 UTC
Renard Solo wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Renard Solo wrote:
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
Renard Solo wrote:
Do i win a prize?
You did win a prize, but this being Eve somebody stole it before it could be given to you Pirate



Dammit ima have to submit a ticket now lol


Not sure you are allowed to complain much until you post with a non-NPC corp main instead of random NPC forum alt.



Sorry no alt just quite new and taking my time. I also quite like the folks ive met in the starter corp so why hustle off? Nice troll attempt tho but not the best. Playing eve the way i want, doing what i fancy at the tine lol.
Obvious code alts are obvious. Stop being terrible.

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Renard Solo
Sublimation inc
#110 - 2015-01-27 10:48:51 UTC
Nope sorry this is my main, bad troll baaaad lol
Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#111 - 2015-01-27 11:23:14 UTC
Vapor Ventrillian wrote:


1-language barriers
2-they plex and don't give a crappers
3-they are code and are simply fleshing out their kill boards so they can remain in the upper echelons of their alliance
4-risk vs profit closer to gank systems you go the more ore you will find
5- they believe that the A.G will defend them (They are a long ways from that)


1. Don't be rude, talk to them in their language. Also, the new order has a number of interpreters in it's employ (myself included), I'm sure they would be able to assist, for a fee.
2. If you buy plex, why mine? If they don't give a (naughty word. Watch it, remember the code of conduct), why should you?
3. Where did you get such a spiffing tinfoil hat?
4. So they consciously made that choice then, why are you in effect punishing the ones who chose to protect themselves by going elsewhere?
5. When do you expect to be able to stop us?

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy
hellyeaz
Systems High Guard
Tactical Narcotics Team
#112 - 2015-01-30 08:48:13 UTC
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
Vapor Ventrillian wrote:


1-language barriers
2-they plex and don't give a crappers
3-they are code and are simply fleshing out their kill boards so they can remain in the upper echelons of their alliance
4-risk vs profit closer to gank systems you go the more ore you will find
5- they believe that the A.G will defend them (They are a long ways from that)


1. Don't be rude, talk to them in their language. Also, the new order has a number of interpreters in it's employ (myself included), I'm sure they would be able to assist, for a fee.
2. If you buy plex, why mine? If they don't give a (naughty word. Watch it, remember the code of conduct), why should you?
3. Where did you get such a spiffing tinfoil hat?
4. So they consciously made that choice then, why are you in effect punishing the ones who chose to protect themselves by going elsewhere?
5. When do you expect to be able to stop us?


You people o.O can learn from Tisi.

Yea, number 3 made me chuckle.
I may be the least effective of all enforcers, and i still find more aspirants than i can deal with each day. No padding needed when afkers offer up opprotunities all day.
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#113 - 2015-01-30 16:08:09 UTC
Tyyler DURden wrote:
Sonne7 wrote:
when ISD remove a post is there anyway to see who it was from

1. The first rule about forum moderation, we don't talk about forum moderation.
2. The second rule about forum moderation,we DON'T talk about forum moderation.


I don't know what you are talking about. Only that I've never heard it. And you've never said it. And that these posts do not exist.

For more information on the New Order of High-Sec, please visit: http://www.minerbumping.com/

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Vector Symian
0 Fear
#114 - 2015-02-08 00:30:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Vector Symian
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
Vapor Ventrillian wrote:


1-language barriers
2-they plex and don't give a crappers
3-they are code and are simply fleshing out their kill boards so they can remain in the upper echelons of their alliance
4-risk vs profit closer to gank systems you go the more ore you will find
5- they believe that the A.G will defend them (They are a long ways from that)


1. Don't be rude, talk to them in their language. Also, the new order has a number of interpreters in it's employ (myself included), I'm sure they would be able to assist, for a fee.
2. If you buy plex, why mine? If they don't give a (naughty word. Watch it, remember the code of conduct), why should you?
3. Where did you get such a spiffing tinfoil hat?
4. So they consciously made that choice then, why are you in effect punishing the ones who chose to protect themselves by going elsewhere?
5. When do you expect to be able to stop us?


Hello as vapor is on vacation currently ill answer

1- You apply a fee!?...well first mistake, and this was a point made in multiple chat conversation with those who English is not their fist language your message is not reaching them many of them have no idea
2- Mining is a gentle pastime so that one may watch the stars and philosophise on life and space.. oh and build the ships being thrown away in mass daily.
3- hmmm didn't really refute the point and everyone know copper works better...
4- the point is that CCP have protections in place and they are not being honoured and you are demanding (with out correct filtration) from ALL of high sec miners and haulers that you need a permit...oh and how is VENTURE hunting going (oh lawdy)
5- stop code?...hmmm don't know ask the spias in your organisation. stop ganking? never and I would not want too, what I would like is a little more respect between the Gs and the A.Gs but your radicals are deliberately feeding the greifing being inflicted on the otherwise bantering moderates in both the parties
poster
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#115 - 2015-02-08 01:49:41 UTC
Here is one problem I have, Code isn't the only one ganking. So unless you intend to muscle other gankers out of the area, which lets be honest we both know you won't, it makes the permit useless and just some random clutter in the bio.

To which leads me to another question what is stopping a person in code from making you buy a permit and just ganking you on an alt Shocked . One could say oh but the honor system blah blah blah. That honor is tied to that code agent not their alt.

Face it code if there was a goal to get people into low and null you did a terrible job and created the oppositeBlink.
Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#116 - 2015-02-08 02:14:34 UTC
poster wrote:
Here is one problem I have, Code isn't the only one ganking. So unless you intend to muscle other gankers out of the area, which lets be honest we both know you won't, it makes the permit useless and just some random clutter in the bio.

To which leads me to another question what is stopping a person in code from making you buy a permit and just ganking you on an alt Shocked . One could say oh but the honor system blah blah blah. That honor is tied to that code agent not their alt.

Face it code if there was a goal to get people into low and null you did a terrible job and created the oppositeBlink.

Interesting. You complain how the permit doesn't work because you can still be ganked, then in the same breath complain that ganking won't get people out of highsec. Which is it?

"Playing an MMO by yourself is like masturbating in the middle of an orgy." -Jonah Gravenstein
poster
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#117 - 2015-02-08 03:12:26 UTC
To be honest the permit was just my opinion and where I see a flaw in it. The reason I brought up the second point, well from what I've read on miner bumping, its suppose to be a war against afk people and bots, while trying to make high sec better.

Yet it comes down to do as I say not as I do. Its screamed at the top of veterans lungs go to low and null for combat ect. While these groups doing the yelling continue to stay in high sec and creating content for people. Why should I go to low sec or null when I can just join code and bam I can gank a freighter whenever and I can gank miners. Might be weak content but its still content.

If you are going to run under the guise of creating a better high sec list reasons why, this for for any group by the way. Don't use that as an excuse to gank people. If you are going to gank people for fun and tears just say you are ganking, not oh we have this five point plan as to why we are doing it.


I have tried ganking in high sec didn't really fit my cup of tea.
hellyeaz
Systems High Guard
Tactical Narcotics Team
#118 - 2015-02-08 08:07:23 UTC  |  Edited by: hellyeaz
poster wrote:

If you are going to run under the guise of creating a better high sec list reasons why.




The reasons are listed, on the minerbumping site, and have been since the beginning. You should read it before trying to pick it apart. Ignorance of the CODE is no excuse for bad posting.

http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html?m=1
Karla the Careless
Beyond Reproach
#119 - 2015-02-08 16:28:44 UTC
hellyeaz wrote:
poster wrote:

If you are going to run under the guise of creating a better high sec list reasons why.




The reasons are listed, on the minerbumping site, and have been since the beginning. You should read it before trying to pick it apart. Ignorance of the CODE is no excuse for bad posting.

http://www.minerbumping.com/p/the-code.html?m=1


Your code will apply to me when CCP bows down to little jimmy and unequivocally states that hisec is code space and renames every system code this, code that, and code the other thing. Until then code can sit and spin.....
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#120 - 2015-02-08 20:55:32 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Ganking is explicitly illegal, and leads to punishment at the hands of the police. It is absolutely against the law in New Eden and a crime...this is trivial.
What's your point?

Ganking is an allowed playstyle, one that is explicitly allowed to happen by CCP; as such it can only be considered illegal for lore and roleplay purposes. For all other purposes it is a legitimate and permitted playstyle.

Your pathetic moral crusade is pointless btw. Go find another windmill to tilt at, the foundations of this one are far more substantial than you imagine.


That's like saying shoplifting is an "allowed playstyle" in real life. Illegal acts are by definition not "allowed."


Not in real life, no. But in a video game?

Take Grand Theft Auto, as an example. Is it illegal to steal cars in that game? Yes. Is it a game designed so that players sometimes HAVE to steal cars in order to accomplish a mission, and therefore not only make the playstyle, allowed, but also necessary? Yes.