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Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#121 - 2015-02-06 05:37:26 UTC
Q: Why do carebears like to stay in hisec?
A: It's not worth it to leave hisec, at least not without some friends with firepower-which, by definition, newbies don't have because they haven't made many friends yet. The path to lowsec is full of warp bubbles and gankers. Jump the wrong gate, and there will be at minimum a warp bubble, some energy neutralizers, maybe a scram or two, some webs, and some DPS = it doesn't matter to me if there are trillions of ISK worth of stuff beyond this.

A signature :o
Victoria Ramsay
Doomheim
#122 - 2015-02-06 07:36:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Victoria Ramsay
There are plenty of people to shoot in null sec and lowsec. Sorry to hear that you only want to shoot carebears - I know they are easier because they don't fight back so this would give you a nice green killboard with little to no effort, while also ruining the game for the carebears. However this is something you'll just have to live with.
Victoria Ramsay
Doomheim
#123 - 2015-02-06 07:39:58 UTC
Also - if your real goal is to prevent gankers from using NPC corps, you could just prevent changing safeties to red in NPC corps (yellow only - so NPC corp players could still PVP in null/low, but not gank in hisec). Restricting NPC corp players to t1 ships is an absolutely ridiculous proposal.
FireFrenzy
Cynosural Samurai
#124 - 2015-02-06 08:23:41 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
ashley Eoner wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Star Citizen.
Elite: Dangerous.
Star Trek Online
Just to name some off the top of my head.

Star Citizen isn't even out of beta and it's an entirely different game from what eve is. Elite Dangerous isn't even in the same realm as eve either.
Star trek online... really? You're going to say that's the same gameplay as eve?
They talked about EVE as though it was the only game with Internet space ships. It is not.

Edit: Check my kill board. I am not a high sec ganker. I just think it is silly that people fly bling ships in the starting corp and area and make huge amounts of ISK.
Risk minimal and reward is high.


Since you seem to be referring to my post i said "Internet spaceships" strictly in the "Internet spaceships is serious business" sense of the word. All those other games have internet spaceships, just no internet spaceships i give a **** about...
Jenshae Chiroptera
#125 - 2015-02-07 01:28:38 UTC
Anhenka wrote:
X
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Anhenka wrote:
How about we not make sweeping game changes based on roleplayers. Ever.
Unless we can also implement my roleplaying ideas as well, which includes space segregation of RP'rs in their own private forums and they can't post on the normal board.
Still waiting for your perfect solutions to everything, ever.
Oddly enough, I don't need to know how to build a perfect bookcase to know that hammering a nail into my hand is most definitely not part of the perfect procedure.
Standing around telling people the shelf is skew and the glue isn't of the top quality doesn't help build any book cases, it only get nails in hands and hammers thrown at you.
Victoria Ramsay wrote:
There are plenty of people to shoot in null sec and lowsec. Sorry to hear that you only want to shoot carebears - I know they are easier because they don't fight back so this would give you a nice green killboard with little to no effort, while also ruining the game for the carebears. However this is something you'll just have to live with.
Wrong motive for thread, cotton.
Shallanna Yassavi wrote:
Q: Why do carebears like to stay in hisec?
A: It's not worth it to leave hisec, at least not without some friends with firepower-which, by definition, newbies don't have because they haven't made many friends yet. The path to lowsec is full of warp bubbles and gankers. Jump the wrong gate, and there will be at minimum a warp bubble, some energy neutralizers, maybe a scram or two, some webs, and some DPS = it doesn't matter to me if there are trillions of ISK worth of stuff beyond this.
There are plenty of NPSI fleets (Not Purple Shoot It) and they roam all over. There are also plenty of corporations and alliance that are large enough to take SOV even.

However, when I do go through low sec it is generally rather empty. I think there is something wrong there. Too many people find it in their interests to stick to high sec and NPC corps rather than group up and go to low sec.

I would say low sec has too many sticks and high sec has too many carrots.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#126 - 2015-02-07 02:21:12 UTC
At the end of the day...since this is a sandbox..if someone chooses to not pvp...its their choice.

Too bad for you, deal with it.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#127 - 2015-02-07 02:31:34 UTC
Syn Shi wrote:
At the end of the day...since this is a sandbox..if someone chooses to not pvp...its their choice.
Too bad for you, deal with it.
Do you like this scenario:
SOV holding main characters and High Sec ISK farming alts?
How about Worm Hole romaing hunter, high sec ISK farmer and newbie station duelling alts?

Do you still think with so much of that sort of thing happening that the sand box has the sand well distributed?

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#128 - 2015-02-07 02:39:28 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Syn Shi wrote:
At the end of the day...since this is a sandbox..if someone chooses to not pvp...its their choice.
Too bad for you, deal with it.
Do you like this scenario:
SOV holding main characters and High Sec ISK farming alts?
How about Worm Hole romaing hunter, high sec ISK farmer and newbie station duelling alts?

Do you still think with so much of that sort of thing happening that the sand box has the sand well distributed?



No play style is doing it wrong in the sandbox....there is room for all.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#129 - 2015-02-07 02:44:53 UTC
Syn Shi wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Syn Shi wrote:
At the end of the day...since this is a sandbox..if someone chooses to not pvp...its their choice.
Too bad for you, deal with it.
Do you like this scenario:
SOV holding main characters and High Sec ISK farming alts?
How about Worm Hole romaing hunter, high sec ISK farmer and newbie station duelling alts?
Do you still think with so much of that sort of thing happening that the sand box has the sand well distributed?
No play style is doing it wrong in the sandbox....there is room for all.
So, using the kid's section of the sandbox to grab sand to build walls that keep the kids out of the teen's section of the sandbox is not a problem?

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#130 - 2015-02-07 17:04:09 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Syn Shi wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Syn Shi wrote:
At the end of the day...since this is a sandbox..if someone chooses to not pvp...its their choice.
Too bad for you, deal with it.
Do you like this scenario:
SOV holding main characters and High Sec ISK farming alts?
How about Worm Hole romaing hunter, high sec ISK farmer and newbie station duelling alts?
Do you still think with so much of that sort of thing happening that the sand box has the sand well distributed?
No play style is doing it wrong in the sandbox....there is room for all.
So, using the kid's section of the sandbox to grab sand to build walls that keep the kids out of the teen's section of the sandbox is not a problem?



and how are people doing that may I ask?
Jenshae Chiroptera
#131 - 2015-02-07 17:09:09 UTC
Lady Rift wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Syn Shi wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Syn Shi wrote:
At the end of the day...since this is a sandbox..if someone chooses to not pvp...its their choice.
Too bad for you, deal with it.
Do you like this scenario:
SOV holding main characters and High Sec ISK farming alts?
How about Worm Hole romaing hunter, high sec ISK farmer and newbie station duelling alts?
Do you still think with so much of that sort of thing happening that the sand box has the sand well distributed?
No play style is doing it wrong in the sandbox....there is room for all.
So, using the kid's section of the sandbox to grab sand to build walls that keep the kids out of the teen's section of the sandbox is not a problem?
and how are people doing that may I ask?
Buy a pilot, pay the same subscription, then you just log off between toons on the same account.
Farm the high sec incursions that pay more than any null profession
Transfer funds to Low Sec or Null Sec toon
Put shiny expensive bubbles and snipers on all the gates.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#132 - 2015-02-07 17:13:29 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Buy a pilot, pay the same subscription, then you just log off between toons on the same account.
Farm the high sec incursions that pay more than any null profession
Transfer funds to Low Sec or Null Sec toon
Put shiny expensive bubbles and snipers on all the gates.



lol at this ever happening at all the gates.

Jenshae Chiroptera
#133 - 2015-02-07 19:11:11 UTC
Lady Rift wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Buy a pilot, pay the same subscription, then you just log off between toons on the same account.
Farm the high sec incursions that pay more than any null profession
Transfer funds to Low Sec or Null Sec toon
Put shiny expensive bubbles and snipers on all the gates.
lol at this ever happening at all the gates.
You didn't refute the essence of the post though. Roll

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#134 - 2015-02-07 23:04:33 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Lady Rift wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Buy a pilot, pay the same subscription, then you just log off between toons on the same account.
Farm the high sec incursions that pay more than any null profession
Transfer funds to Low Sec or Null Sec toon
Put shiny expensive bubbles and snipers on all the gates.
lol at this ever happening at all the gates.
You didn't refute the essence of the post though. Roll


There is no need to since we know it's BS anyway. How about you prove newbie can't access low/null by let's say disprove the existance of brave newbies.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#135 - 2015-02-08 01:41:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Lady Rift wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Buy a pilot, pay the same subscription, then you just log off between toons on the same account.
Farm the high sec incursions that pay more than any null profession
Transfer funds to Low Sec or Null Sec toon
Put shiny expensive bubbles and snipers on all the gates.
lol at this ever happening at all the gates.
You didn't refute the essence of the post though. Roll
There is no need to since we know it's BS anyway. How about you prove newbie can't access low/null by let's say disprove the existance of brave newbies.
Are you going to say next that they had nothing but a bunch of enthusiastic newbies who ran out into null sec and managed to grab SOV?

Just as an interesting side note: They have managed to rack up over 13000 *pages* on a kill board already.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#136 - 2015-02-08 02:38:39 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Lady Rift wrote:
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Buy a pilot, pay the same subscription, then you just log off between toons on the same account.
Farm the high sec incursions that pay more than any null profession
Transfer funds to Low Sec or Null Sec toon
Put shiny expensive bubbles and snipers on all the gates.
lol at this ever happening at all the gates.
You didn't refute the essence of the post though. Roll
There is no need to since we know it's BS anyway. How about you prove newbie can't access low/null by let's say disprove the existance of brave newbies.
Are you going to say next that they had nothing but a bunch of enthusiastic newbies who ran out into null sec and managed to grab SOV?

Just as an interesting side note: They have managed to rack up over 13000 *pages* on a kill board already.




Is this suppose to mean something?
Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#137 - 2015-02-08 04:30:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Rift
Edit. Wrong thread
Jenshae Chiroptera
#138 - 2015-02-10 23:06:34 UTC
"One issue raised is staying in contact with your friends from an NPC corp. They want an official public chat channel that comes up when you start the game. You can leave it but it means your starting corp can always stay in touch if they want."

Added to the OP.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.
Anhenka
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#139 - 2015-02-10 23:21:15 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
"One issue raised is staying in contact with your friends from an NPC corp. They want an official public chat channel that comes up when you start the game. You can leave it but it means your starting corp can always stay in touch if they want."

Added to the OP.



How is that not your run of the mill public chat channel?
Alistrina Sassoire
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#140 - 2015-02-10 23:28:11 UTC
We've tried to create public chat channels but they don't get used, and there are multiples of them. Having a social connection to your old starter corp as standard will make it work.