EVE General Discussion

You are a care bear, you are bored because you are scared.

As has been pointed out, if they dropped a bubble you were entering Null Sec.

That means you trespassed on someone else s property, and they took appropriate action.

Don't you realize that territory was carved out of nothing by sheer effort of will, and legal sovereignty preserved only through continual vigilance and sacrifice.

You see, that's what I don't get about EVE players. You barge into someone else's home without a care in the world and then get upset when that person defends themselves and their property.

Why are they like that? Are they that callous? Attitudes like that are almost enough to ruin the game.


(See what I did there?)

No, I did not resub, 9 days left.

Anyhoo.

Back in days in Great Wildlands I was fooling around in my Ratting Raven. Yes the same wich I used to knock out Vagabond without point. Stupid fool thought that I had point.

I left NDQ towards 7JF where I usually did farm those angels. Somewhere in between I got into hostile camp. There was like 4 frigs and destroyers, one interceptor.

Well I had a prototype cloak. In a raven.

I decloak, hit cloak. Speed like 20 ms. First destroyer zooms but doesn't come near enough. They run around trying to look for me. I keep slowboating. I do not remember did I warp off, but I think they just left like after 30 minutes or so.

Well that raven was weird.

Same pipe, towards the lowsec in later on. I am in my Raven. I get engaged by four ships, one of them was arazu. Huge amount of damps, targeting time like 60 seconds. They keep shooting. I get volley few times when they go out of cap. After 20+ minutes they stop because they are running out of ammo. They could not penetrate my semipassive shields. Two LSE, two invufields, something lows and someting rigs, anyway passive rechage was like 250.

I have flown through gatecamps with ittyV, without stabs. You get lucky sometimes with the angle for warp.

When I was a pirate, I used drake with one sensorbooster and I was always top of the DMG list. Missileskills at V and heavies were nice at those times. Yes I did out damage even pimped Abaddons. Applied DPS in your face.

But of course the best ship for gatecamping was my belowed leviathan with AoE DD. Oh those times.

As for why, it's because killing players is more challenging and therefore more rewarding than shooting NPCs. It's because it's hard to do.

If only those days would make a comback.

I see some bitter people here who have died to gate camps. But like others have said - there are easy ways to get around them.

Everyone else has posted how we do it, so im not going to state it again. But the reasons why people gate camp that others have posted are BS. On the occasion I gate camp its because:


1) Controlling a system - can only be done through choke points. It could be we have dreads in system and we don't want you to see what we are doing or give you a Cyno into said system to drop on our operations. Mining, POS killing, POCO killing, safe harbor blah blah blah.

2) It can make isk - T3 Pilots can be very dumb.

3) It creates anger, with anger people form fleets to go kill the lightly tanked gate campers. We see the fleet coming, upship and get a good fight out of it.

4) its same thing as a titan bridge - except we don't have to fly back. In both instances, you are sitting around waiting for targets and get your rocks off at one point.

5) Its great for camaraderie

6) It really pisses people off and they almost always give you good local

7) Im feeling lazy that day and don't feel like flying 20-30 jumps for a fight to get overwhelmed due to Jump Bridges.

It is best done in systems that are hubs. Avoid the hubs avoid the gate camps.

As an FYI - I tend to solo more often now a days, or try to. usually ends up in a blob. The majority of the fun for me in small gang war, which includes gate camps, is the hunt. the Killmail is just a reminder of the fun you had in the hunt.

This.

I get that spawn points were probably easiest on the servers when Eve and other MMOs started, but I am sure technology has moved beyond that.

Every sci fi genre out there has ships that can move between systems without the help of gates - except, of course, for Stargate and its spin-offs - but even the ships on those shows could jump or warp between systems.

Their removal still leaves signatures, anomalies, stations, moons, POCOs and belts as good "fishing holes". Except that there would be a little more tactics involved since players in the signatures, anomalies and belts would be spread out and have a chance to escape.

Cynos would have to be changed, though. They require multiple characters to work - one to light them, and the other to jump to them - thus handicapping solo, single-account players. The change could be that a cyno allows pinpoint jumping while jumping without a cyno will land you in a 0-5 AU radius of your intended target. This could be adjusted by skills and modules. Just a thought.

Mostly this.

Keyboard shortcuts can be a god send rather than clicking with mouse. Also you can pre activate more than one mod at a time

Better yet, fly this route when the gate campers are in bed .. probably 4am euro time