Ships & Modules

Have you actually done this, or is it theorising?
Most T1 frigate fits fit a scrambler & web.
If they web and scram you, then there's simply no way you can escape. You can't really 'burn out of range' if you can't use your MWD! It's very likely they'd have an AB, and so you'd be toast.

It sounds as if your tactic relies on kiting...Yet you have a warp scrambler. Just like other frigs. You'd scram them, they'd scram you, they'd get in your face and destroy you with superior ehp & dps.

I'm not an expert on frigate fighting, but I can't see this fit working. You need a warp disruptor if you want to face off against other frigs.

Good luck with your endeavours!


EDIT: It seems as if you can easily fit a warp disruptor onto that. Unfortunately, I find the web questionable. If you're in web range, you're in scram range, and you're dead. Perhaps a small shield extender?

Every Rifter should fit a MSE.

Dumbest sentence ever. MSE rifter has more speed, damage and EHP this is true, but it can't control range as well due to lack of web (and it can't use the web to help kill drones faster). If you mean "all I do blob and there you want speed and EHP so in my limited view this is the best evar" then you might be right.


To the OP, fitting depends on the strategy you want to use and not just on numbers in EFT. Arties assume a long range strategy, your scram assumes short range. You will be able to catch people with it ofcourse but that's more because they were bad than your fit is good (most uber PVP movies you might see are more about finding idiot targets than being godly at pvp). Also, 1v1 fits are VERY different from fleet fits thus a 1v1/fleet fit doesn't exist. If you're in a fleet it depends on your role, if tackler you'll be short range and therefore AC. If you're in a frigate army then the MSE with long point can make good sense which could very well be coupled with artie.

If you do 1v1 against another frigate your best bet is to keep them at range (within scram) and pummel them there, the most obvious option for that is ACs with Barrage loaded. The vast majority of frigate pilots do not use range ammo so you can easily catch them out with that and even if they have it in cargo they won't have it loaded so by the time they realise it's going south for them and they need to swap ammo it's way too late. A fit like that requires an AB (to counter hostile scram), scram and web, a bit of tank and barrage.

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And if you want to do the kiting thing then the above fit makes good sense. Thing is that you should choose either because you can't, somehow, combine them into one and make it work against anything other than easy targets.

Offer something better then, your haughty sentence is hardly a contribution.

In terms of an arty Rifter fit, TE's, disruptor and an MSE as posted above is a good approach; You're always going to be paper thin though. A few other possible options are to go armour, or even no tank at all with a TD.

-Ed

The jag is an arty rifter... a rifter should have ac's on it and an armor tank to boot...

A full tackle included...


[Rifter, Assault tackler]

3x 125mm Gatling AutoCannon II (Hail S)
Rocket Launcher II or meta version with faction rockets.

'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Initiated Harmonic Warp Scrambler I
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters

Damage Control II
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Gyrostabilizer II

Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Ancillary Current Router I

Confirming that rifter blob is the most effective method of pvp.

There is exactly one frigate setup that would very effectively **** on the OP's fit as you said, and that is AB/Scram/web. That's a very specific setup, one a large percentage of frigate fits don't have (including most of my own).

AB/scram/web is your holy trifecta in high/low sec pvp. Unless I notice otherwise, I expect every incursus, rifter, tristan, merlin and kestrel to run those mids.

Arty rifters can be effective against ships that can't hit outside web/scram range, so your "tank" should be your ability to stay out that far as long as it takes to either kill or determine that you can't and leave. This means MWD, long point, cap booster, and not engaging anything that can touch you at range. The tracking bonus and lack of optimal penalty with Uranium make it perfect for arties, and probably means more applied DPS at range vs the higher damage ammos. With the setup below, you can hit out to overheated long-point range. Have used it in successful 1v1s against ab/short range frigs, and works well in packs of similar fits if some fit TDs instead of points.


[Rifter, Arty 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 150
Warp Disruptor II
Catalyzed Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters

250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium S
250mm Light Artillery Cannon II, Republic Fleet Depleted Uranium S
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I


If you are comfortable flying paper-thin, ranged Rifters, you can also try a similar fit with 3x TEIIs in the lows, and 200mm ACs fit with barrage. Can hit close to the edge of long point range, even when orbiting at MWD speeds, and has room for a missile launcher for more ranged DPS.

[Rifter, Kite Solo Speed]
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas Arcjet Thrusters
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 150

'Malkuth' Standard Missile Launcher I, Flameburst Light Missile
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S
200mm AutoCannon II, Barrage S

Small Projectile Burst Aerator I
Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Auxiliary Thrusters I

Yes, these can be considered LOLfits, but can be fun and effective alternatives to more standard fits if flown properly against wisely chosen targets.

That was so terrible. I'll never look at rifters the same.