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Distance from Sol to Eden?
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Sibius Aidon
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#1 - 2015-02-05 03:01:43 UTC
So in theory does anyone know an estimate on how far Sol is from New Eden?
Bobb Bobbington
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#2 - 2015-02-05 03:02:59 UTC
I'm pretty sure noone knows, I think Earth has been lost for quite a while.

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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-02-05 03:06:30 UTC
So far as I know, no, there is not a defined distance between Sol and New Eden.
Sibius Aidon
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#4 - 2015-02-05 03:07:27 UTC
Yes but you'd figure they would have determined New Eden's distance from Sol before the gate collapse. Though I guess even that information was probably lost after its collapse.
Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-02-05 03:11:53 UTC
Sibius Aidon wrote:
Yes but you'd figure they would have determined New Eden's distance from Sol before the gate collapse. Though I guess even that information was probably lost after its collapse.


Yeah, that's probably one of those trivia facts that got lost in the clamor to not die of starvation.
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
#6 - 2015-02-05 03:51:10 UTC
Sibius Aidon wrote:
Yes but you'd figure they would have determined New Eden's distance from Sol before the gate collapse. Though I guess even that information was probably lost after its collapse.


No possible way anyone knew. New Eden is but a isolated small cluster of stars located in the middle somewhere.

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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-02-05 04:17:34 UTC
My understanding was that the location of Sol and New Eden were never able to be calculated even when the Eve Gate was active. The Gate went from The Milky Way(maybe? not even sure if the exact location was ever said) to New Eden, with nothing to accurately judge location in the known universe..

In short, it's like going in a WH. You connected to it, but your ship can't calculate it's location relative to the rest of New Eden, or even if it IS in New Eden.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2015-02-05 05:49:07 UTC
At least as far away so that no transmissions from Earths history did reach New Eden yet ;-) - You do the math.

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Jennifer Rhoswen
Tarsis Inc
#9 - 2015-02-05 06:05:45 UTC
One thing to consider is that we can only see possibly a very small part of the universe and there may be much of the universe that's moving away from Sol faster than light(due to expansion), so it's quite realistic to pop out of a wormhole and have no real way to know where you are relative to where you came from.
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EVE Online Monopoly
#10 - 2015-02-05 06:10:08 UTC
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Trevor Dalech
Nobody in Local
Deepwater Hooligans
#11 - 2015-02-05 07:49:02 UTC
We'll... New Eden is located in some server park in London. On a planet which is orbiting Sol. So I'd say about 1 AU.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#12 - 2015-02-05 07:50:16 UTC
Sibius Aidon wrote:
So in theory does anyone know an estimate on how far Sol is from New Eden?




23000 Light years from the bits and pieces I have picked up over the years.

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VTyx Soul
Station Window Lickers
#13 - 2015-02-05 08:01:10 UTC
The distance was never defined or calculated and in all the lore and articles since 2003 i have never seen it mentioned. The only details revealed were that the eve wormhole was found at the edge of colonised space at the time, the name of the star system in which it was found was given but my memory is not so good that I can recount the name presently.

It was lored that the eve cluster of several thousand stars was quite a distance from the point of entry and it is possible for it to be either in the otherside of the universe or in a different time all together. We will most likely never know. And despite many new player misconceptions earth is not on the otherside of the wormhole.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#14 - 2015-02-05 08:13:56 UTC
Jennifer Rhoswen wrote:
One thing to consider is that we can only see possibly a very small part of the universe and there may be much of the universe that's moving away from Sol faster than light(due to expansion), so it's quite realistic to pop out of a wormhole and have no real way to know where you are relative to where you came from.

Indeed. If we assume that the astronomers where not able to determine the location before the gate collapsed then it is a reasonable assumption that New Eden is outside the observable universe.

Because even today we have maps of the milkyway and the big structures and the quality of this maps is increasing. We can assume this will get better over time and in a future where the Eve Gate could be discovered they would probably be accurate enough to allow for an automatic determination of the position if known structures are observed at all.

So still assuming they where not able to determine the location, no of the known structures where observes, so New Eden has to be over a diameter of the expanding universe, which would be > 93 billion light-years.

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Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-02-05 13:14:22 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Sibius Aidon wrote:
So in theory does anyone know an estimate on how far Sol is from New Eden?




23000 Light years from the bits and pieces I have picked up over the years.


Now, what kind of a fleet setup would it be needed to allow one ship (out of however many you need for fuel) to transverse that distance with a jump drive if we assume that it can initiate a jump towards a single direction at will with current jump ranges?
Sibius Aidon
Ascendance Rising
Ascendance..
#16 - 2015-02-05 13:53:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Sibius Aidon
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Sibius Aidon wrote:
So in theory does anyone know an estimate on how far Sol is from New Eden?




23000 Light years from the bits and pieces I have picked up over the years.


The USS Voyager from Star Trek got lost 75,000+ light years from Earth. Different universe, same distance measurement. Im also fairly certain IRL we can observe 23,000 light years, so assuming the colonies of Sol were more advanced than us, they could have easily been able to tell where Sol, and how far.

At a jump distance of 6 AU, it would take 3,833 jumps to go 23,000 light years. Current jump mechanics aside and assuming no problems along route and enough fuel was brought , I assume an hour between jumps, it would take you 160 days to traverse that many jumps.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#17 - 2015-02-05 14:26:35 UTC
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#18 - 2015-02-05 14:55:47 UTC
Trevor Dalech wrote:
We'll... New Eden is located in some server park in London. On a planet which is orbiting Sol. So I'd say about 1 AU.
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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#19 - 2015-02-05 17:55:36 UTC
Yeah it was just one jump...
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#20 - 2015-02-05 17:57:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent Athena
It's not clear New Eden is even in the same universe, or in the same time as Earth. Wormholes could traverse both.

Currently, in the real world, we know alot about how galaxies are arranged about the universe. In a hundred years we will have the position of virtually every galaxy mapped. Our knowledge is sufficient that if New Eden was in the observable universe, it's location would have been determined.

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