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Xenuria: CSM 10

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Xenuria
#201 - 2015-01-30 18:42:33 UTC
Don Peyote wrote:
you have my votes

praise the yeti


Thank you kindly!

Ko-Reen Machu'dog
Perkone
Caldari State
#202 - 2015-01-30 18:47:41 UTC
what did you do to hockles?
Xenuria
#203 - 2015-01-30 18:57:59 UTC
Ko-Reen Machu'dog wrote:
what did you do to hockles?


I don't know maybe you should stick to posting on infowars.
HarlyQ
harlyq syrokos investment station
#204 - 2015-01-31 00:55:25 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
ChYph3r wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
when I did I lead the largest guild in the history of the game.



Xenuria, you say you lead a large WoW guild. However your eve corp history reads like a "I dont fit in anywhere".

https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/Xenuria#employmentHistory

It tells me you have no kind of leadership skills to back up anything you have said.


You are entitled to your opinion.

Id still like an answer to my second/followup question, especially regarding the comment you jsut replied to.

you admitted you dont post at all really on the forums, by this we can at least infer you dont really read the forums much, you also stated that you dont speak with much of anyone ingame outside people who are already your "followers" basically, which I can guess numbers somewhere around 100 or less

So, on to the question, despite having no real forum presence, and no greater EVE community presence ingame, WHY/HOW do you think you are qualified for a CSM position?

Still waiting for Xenuria to answer this lady. It's been 5 days what you gonna say Xenuria.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#205 - 2015-01-31 03:02:19 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
I am sorry if I offended you, I have unfortunately become accustomed to people falsely accusing me of stuff. It's a sore subject for me.

You can't just settle with the belief that everyone is targeting you specifically more than others for no reason at all. There has to be a reason for it. Easiest way to discover the reason behind a string of similar occurrences is to find the common denominator.


If you don't have any questions about my platform or csm candidacy than we have nothing to talk about.

I tried to help you but I give up. You're on your own, man. GLHF

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#206 - 2015-01-31 15:12:01 UTC
I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
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Xenuria
#207 - 2015-02-02 23:37:54 UTC
Proof

http://i.imgur.com/eWAfuGO.png

Well isn't this a nifty little trinket?
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#208 - 2015-02-03 00:23:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Nariya Kentaya
Xenuria wrote:
Proof

http://i.imgur.com/eWAfuGO.png

Well isn't this a nifty little trinket?

just some advice, for CSM XI, be more active in the community at large, you're not seen much on the forums, and most people ingame wouldnt even know who you are. As far as notable occurences go, I think the only community related event of note was someone being pissed enough at you to vandalize the monument, which prospective voters would only take away as you having done something to **** people off.

So, its a little late for rep building, CSM X is lost, for CSM XI, should you choose to run, I say you should wander a bit outside your "constituency" and provide a little for the playerbase. Maybe start up another NPSI group, those are becoming popular again, or maybe organize players to make a new lowsec block, or hell, make a highsec industry empire for all i care.

bottom line is, if you want a chance of election for CSM XI, you have to be more public with yourself, and a little more friendly with people who share opposing or even differing views.

yes, nullsec blocs get people elected by mass voting, because their leadership tells them who to vote for, that may seem unfair, but realize that the number of people who follow their word willingly, to the letter, says something about their personality and leadership qualities within the community, making political results from their choices completely valid and OK. Theres is the power of community backing, and of social status, you're going to need to work on those skills to make it in ANY election.

edit* some spelling errors were bugging me
Xenuria
#209 - 2015-02-03 01:07:40 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Proof

http://i.imgur.com/eWAfuGO.png

Well isn't this a nifty little trinket?

just some advice, for CSM XI, be more active in the community at large, you're not seen much on the forums, and most people ingame wouldnt even know who you are. As far as notable occurences go, I think the only community related event of note was someone being pissed enough at you to vandalize the monument, which prospective voters would only take away as you having done something to **** people off.

So, its a little late for rep building, CSM X is lost, for CSM XI, should you choose to run, I say you should wander a bit outside your "constituency" and provide a little for the playerbase. Maybe start up another NPSI group, those are becoming popular again, or maybe organize players to make a new lowsec block, or hell, make a highsec industry empire for all i care.

bottom line is, if you want a chance of election for CSM XI, you have to be more public with yourself, and a little more friendly with people who share opposing or even differing views.

yes, nullsec blocs get people elected by mass voting, because their leadership tells them who to vote for, that may seem unfair, but realize that the number of people who follow their word willingly, to the letter, says something about their personality and leadership qualities within the community, making political results from their choices completely valid and OK. Theres is the power of community backing, and of social status, you're going to need to work on those skills to make it in ANY election.

edit* some spelling errors were bugging me


If you think the CSM is a popularity contest that requires the grinding of "rep", maybe your playing the wrong MMO.
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#210 - 2015-02-03 10:00:08 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Proof

http://i.imgur.com/eWAfuGO.png

Well isn't this a nifty little trinket?
You really are something. It's almost like you are proud of how little you know, and desire to shout it from rooftops.

Before you run and fail next time, I'd suggest that you, before even starting your campaign, studies the election process a little. That will ensure that you don't trip yourself over claims that Goons or other null sec entities have placed you lowest on their ballot list, and this is somehow to your disadvantage. You can also collect evidence for other points, so when you claim that so-and-so percentages of your constituency is female, you actually can show that to be true, and not, as we all know, an illusion you've made up all on your own.
You might also, before you run, evaluate whether you want to scream "foul" when the candidate with many votes win over the candidate with close to no votes. As a joke candidate, I'm not sure you can grasp the finer details, but the general gist of any voting process is to determine which candidate has the biggest support among the voting population. For null sec candidates, that support is huge (And comparatively larger than other groups' due to what seems to be a voting null sec and a scarcely voting high sec), for you that support is close to nil.
So, why is that? Well, it can be for a number of issues. One is that, somewhat like parties in real life, the null sec candidates have established bases behind them, people who trusts the leadership enough to assume that whatever candidate they found, is the right candidate. You also have organisations that holds various forms of rallies, remind their members to vote, and make the process easy. You also have a generally higher quality with null sec candidates, who are selected for their eloquency, apparent intelligence, diplomacy, or competence in many other areas. With some candidates, their competence and their reputation outside their own, small, group, is what gave them enough votes to be succesful in their bid for election.
Obviously, these are both structural and personal assets that you don't have, or are unlikely to have.
Then you have further problems, such as your gaffe with YT videos that one time you ran, or the lulzsec hacking association, and posts in here where many of your claims are unfounded, and the rest are insignificant or simply the product of someone elses success and your lack thereof.

So for many good reasons, the easiest way for you to get elected is to buy secondary accounts and vote for yourself with them, or to change character, style, platform, constituency and much more (And hope none recognises your name). Both of these options are possible for CSM 11.
Xenuria
#211 - 2015-02-03 16:49:02 UTC
Alphea Abbra wrote:
You really are something. It's almost like you are proud of how little you know, and desire to shout it from rooftops.


Are you familiar with the term "Self-Caricature"?
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#212 - 2015-02-03 16:57:41 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Proof

http://i.imgur.com/eWAfuGO.png

Well isn't this a nifty little trinket?

just some advice, for CSM XI, be more active in the community at large, you're not seen much on the forums, and most people ingame wouldnt even know who you are. As far as notable occurences go, I think the only community related event of note was someone being pissed enough at you to vandalize the monument, which prospective voters would only take away as you having done something to **** people off.

So, its a little late for rep building, CSM X is lost, for CSM XI, should you choose to run, I say you should wander a bit outside your "constituency" and provide a little for the playerbase. Maybe start up another NPSI group, those are becoming popular again, or maybe organize players to make a new lowsec block, or hell, make a highsec industry empire for all i care.

bottom line is, if you want a chance of election for CSM XI, you have to be more public with yourself, and a little more friendly with people who share opposing or even differing views.

yes, nullsec blocs get people elected by mass voting, because their leadership tells them who to vote for, that may seem unfair, but realize that the number of people who follow their word willingly, to the letter, says something about their personality and leadership qualities within the community, making political results from their choices completely valid and OK. Theres is the power of community backing, and of social status, you're going to need to work on those skills to make it in ANY election.

edit* some spelling errors were bugging me


If you think the CSM is a popularity contest that requires the grinding of "rep", maybe your playing the wrong MMO.

popularity contest? i do believe it IS indeed a mass-voter based system. and yes, if i recall, these systems rely on voter recognition, the key to which is being recognized positively by the voters, which DOES indeed require you to interact in constructive and bond-building ways with the greater community outside your 100-person "constituency".

so yeah, you gotta "grind" rep, just like the mittanni had to, just like seraph had to, just like twostep had to, etc, etc, etc
Xenuria
#213 - 2015-02-03 20:38:24 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Proof

http://i.imgur.com/eWAfuGO.png

Well isn't this a nifty little trinket?

just some advice, for CSM XI, be more active in the community at large, you're not seen much on the forums, and most people ingame wouldnt even know who you are. As far as notable occurences go, I think the only community related event of note was someone being pissed enough at you to vandalize the monument, which prospective voters would only take away as you having done something to **** people off.

So, its a little late for rep building, CSM X is lost, for CSM XI, should you choose to run, I say you should wander a bit outside your "constituency" and provide a little for the playerbase. Maybe start up another NPSI group, those are becoming popular again, or maybe organize players to make a new lowsec block, or hell, make a highsec industry empire for all i care.

bottom line is, if you want a chance of election for CSM XI, you have to be more public with yourself, and a little more friendly with people who share opposing or even differing views.

yes, nullsec blocs get people elected by mass voting, because their leadership tells them who to vote for, that may seem unfair, but realize that the number of people who follow their word willingly, to the letter, says something about their personality and leadership qualities within the community, making political results from their choices completely valid and OK. Theres is the power of community backing, and of social status, you're going to need to work on those skills to make it in ANY election.

edit* some spelling errors were bugging me


If you think the CSM is a popularity contest that requires the grinding of "rep", maybe your playing the wrong MMO.

popularity contest? i do believe it IS indeed a mass-voter based system. and yes, if i recall, these systems rely on voter recognition, the key to which is being recognized positively by the voters, which DOES indeed require you to interact in constructive and bond-building ways with the greater community outside your 100-person "constituency".

so yeah, you gotta "grind" rep, just like the mittanni had to, just like seraph had to, just like twostep had to, etc, etc, etc


The CSM is not something you can twist and bend to fit your argument, everything you have said is not only incongruous but humorous when stripped of bias. I again suggest that you play a Different MMO if grinding is your thing.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#214 - 2015-02-03 21:46:47 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Proof

http://i.imgur.com/eWAfuGO.png

Well isn't this a nifty little trinket?

just some advice, for CSM XI, be more active in the community at large, you're not seen much on the forums, and most people ingame wouldnt even know who you are. As far as notable occurences go, I think the only community related event of note was someone being pissed enough at you to vandalize the monument, which prospective voters would only take away as you having done something to **** people off.

So, its a little late for rep building, CSM X is lost, for CSM XI, should you choose to run, I say you should wander a bit outside your "constituency" and provide a little for the playerbase. Maybe start up another NPSI group, those are becoming popular again, or maybe organize players to make a new lowsec block, or hell, make a highsec industry empire for all i care.

bottom line is, if you want a chance of election for CSM XI, you have to be more public with yourself, and a little more friendly with people who share opposing or even differing views.

yes, nullsec blocs get people elected by mass voting, because their leadership tells them who to vote for, that may seem unfair, but realize that the number of people who follow their word willingly, to the letter, says something about their personality and leadership qualities within the community, making political results from their choices completely valid and OK. Theres is the power of community backing, and of social status, you're going to need to work on those skills to make it in ANY election.

edit* some spelling errors were bugging me


If you think the CSM is a popularity contest that requires the grinding of "rep", maybe your playing the wrong MMO.

popularity contest? i do believe it IS indeed a mass-voter based system. and yes, if i recall, these systems rely on voter recognition, the key to which is being recognized positively by the voters, which DOES indeed require you to interact in constructive and bond-building ways with the greater community outside your 100-person "constituency".

so yeah, you gotta "grind" rep, just like the mittanni had to, just like seraph had to, just like twostep had to, etc, etc, etc


The CSM is not something you can twist and bend to fit your argument, everything you have said is not only incongruous but humorous when stripped of bias. I again suggest that you play a Different MMO if grinding is your thing.

please, elaborate for me, ENLIGHTEN me. Where did I go wrong in saying the CSM elections were popularity based, and that past winners actually had to work for their reputation before they were elected. tell me exactly how either of those statements is false.
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#215 - 2015-02-04 00:01:32 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
You really are something. It's almost like you are proud of how little you know, and desire to shout it from rooftops.


Are you familiar with the term "Self-Caricature"?
Yes, which is why I enjoy your attempts to run very much, it's like a car-crash, only it's political, happening in slow-motion, nobody gets hurt and I can go back and rewatch if I want. I know I haven't been supportive before, but at this point I would like you to run, again and again, because it's hilarious.
So for the sake of everyone with a desire to laugh, please do continue to run.

It's not every day we get to see such a perfect specimen of the joke candidate.
Xenuria
#216 - 2015-02-04 19:10:10 UTC
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
You really are something. It's almost like you are proud of how little you know, and desire to shout it from rooftops.


Are you familiar with the term "Self-Caricature"?
Yes, which is why I enjoy your attempts to run very much, it's like a car-crash, only it's political, happening in slow-motion, nobody gets hurt and I can go back and rewatch if I want. I know I haven't been supportive before, but at this point I would like you to run, again and again, because it's hilarious.
So for the sake of everyone with a desire to laugh, please do continue to run.

It's not every day we get to see such a perfect specimen of the joke candidate.


I am sorry that you can't grasp the palpable irony of your statements.
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#217 - 2015-02-04 19:20:25 UTC
I hope you win just so I can see the car crash. Then I can start a pool on when you would be kicked out, why you would be kicked, and what exsucse you give for being kicked. It will be fun, entertaining , and profitable.

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three

Marlona Sky
State War Academy
Caldari State
#218 - 2015-02-04 19:49:23 UTC
Dradis Aulmais wrote:
I hope you win just so I can see the car crash. Then I can start a pool on when you would be kicked out, why you would be kicked, and what exsucse you give for being kicked. It will be fun, entertaining , and profitable.

Maybe you should update your sig then.
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#219 - 2015-02-04 19:56:35 UTC
Marlona Sky wrote:
Dradis Aulmais wrote:
I hope you win just so I can see the car crash. Then I can start a pool on when you would be kicked out, why you would be kicked, and what exsucse you give for being kicked. It will be fun, entertaining , and profitable.

Maybe you should update your sig then.



Yeah, I don't care THAT much.

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three

Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#220 - 2015-02-04 20:00:48 UTC
Dradis Aulmais wrote:
I hope you win just so I can see the car crash. Then I can start a pool on when you would be kicked out, why you would be kicked, and what exsucse you give for being kicked. It will be fun, entertaining , and profitable.

I think i can imagine how, just like this thread so far, the CSM will be discussing a topic with CCP, Xenuria will pick a fight with a dev walking by in the hallway not even involved, adn completely ignore all actual discussion happening in the room

on a related note

im still waiting for my answer Xen about my complete misunderstanding somehow of how public elections work, because my highly inferior brain cant seem to see past this big illusion you can perceive so well about how a democratic election is totally NOT based on how many votes a candidate gets, and those votes being dependent on whether or not people like that candidate's history
(because hint hint, that is EXACTLY how elections work, waht you state in this thread as your CSM goals mean NOTHING, all people care about is their prior experience with you, which so far means you have 3 groups, 1% of voters who are part of your "100 man constituency" you hang with that no one knows or interacts with, the about 80% who have no idea who you are compared to the other candidates, and the other 10% who only know you from the monument incident and and only know that you did something to make someone angry enough to commit a crime)

and im not trying to troll or derail anything, ive asked you legitimate questions in an effort to HELP you and your chances of not only gaining a chair on the CSM, but interacting with the greater community as a functional human being, all of which attempts i might add, were either ignored by you or were responded to with a very "im not going to even try adn get elected" holier-than-thou attitude