EVE General Discussion

I used to have two clients running whenever I was playing. Now, with the changes since Incarna, I can no longer run two clients on my machine. Even with the station environment turned off. So I cancelled one of my accounts and waiting to see about the winter expansion for my remaining accounts.

The multiple client nerf (I'm calling it a nerf) is significant imo. A lot of the logged on population might have been semi-afk market players while running missions/fleets/whatever on another client. If it becomes more difficult to run multiple clients on a single machine, then less pilots will be logged in at any given moment.

Also, Incarna is a failure.

One thing is missing to make me believe that EVE is dying : Panic reactions/last minute attempts to please players, from CCP.

What is voiced here alot is the alledged lack of concrete actions to correct situations brought up by the players and/or their representants (CSM) hence, leading to player quitting, leading to EVE dying.

If the situation was like so, then it would be logical to think CCP would act on these grounds and fast unless it has decided to let go of EVE which is totally unrealistic since they have no way to confirm how good their next titles will do.

In short (tl;dr) ; the moment we see CCP in a hurry to accomodate the most player requests as fast as possible, then it will probably be time to panic and call for doomsday.




+1 for the "little shop of horror" reference. Truly a classic!

I havn't seen those sites tracking rmt and i'm wary about going anywhere close (even a step away) from those sites for fear of key loggers (i'm not technically adept to feel confident blocking or repairing such stuff)

BUT

ISK price on the RMT isn't only demand driven ... like all markets the supply is half the picture.

I can certainly imagine the supply of isk for sale dramatically rising as the players leaving in disgust are probably disproportionately longer term players and longer term players have a disproportional number of huges stores of ISK wealth.

I don't think most long temr players would use such sites.... but even if it was only 1 in 10, if you have 20 people leaving instead of 10 you have twice as much isk from players trying to be liquidated. The RMT companies wouldn't have to have chinese laborers farm as much so there'd be some limit, but still the pressure could be large

What many long term players with huge fortunes might do would be to give some of their isk or just a few ships etc to players still interested in the game who would have other wise used $ to buy ISK even if its just a dozen fully fit battleships thats a handful less purchases. Most people with huge fortunes would proabably just leave their accounts behind with the isk in them....yet those that took the other options could still have an effect.

That sort of thing could mean that the drop in $ to isk didn't point to a loss in players.. just higher supply and more demand being filled by other means (gifts)

When the server crashed last week and had ONLY a 3 minute reboot.

26,000 had been on, and after reboot only 12,000 came back and it took 10 hours till DT for it to CREAP up to 25,000.

I refuse to believe that 14,000 Players got the 'give-ups' after 3 minutes.

That tells me it was 12,000 people PLAYING and 14,000 BOTTING.

There's a Metric fer ya.

The number of offline faction towers in highsec is huge giving me a long list of boring things to shoot. It also indicated players with a level of dedication above casual mission runner know what's going on and are taking their $ elsewhere.

I noticed a price increase for PI POS fuel. Not by much, so I guess some people are merely reducing the number of their alt accounts. Or it's the lack of faction towers that increase the overall fuel consumption.

You mean the newsletter they (not so) recently decided not to release any more and instead turn into a yearly one (which may or may not include the metrics we used to get)?

Partially - on one hand though, they introduced tons of new bugs that make it to inconvenient to play.
I'm not very fond of logging in and losing a full highgrade set to sluggish UI responsivity - neither do I want to triple-check if all my skills and modules are applied correctly, if any modules are offline etc...

On the other hand, Eve basically being the same is part of the problem - during the majority of the past 6 years, there has always been some changes to adapt to, a new FOTM to train for, new content to explore, but the last few expansions were rather stale.


We had PI, but despite liking builder games like civ, I thought it was so poorly implemented it didn't catch my interest - then there were Incursions, which were fun for a week (although more for the idiots warping their pimped golems into there solo and looting them later), but after that, became a mindless, boring grind for isk with the same, repetitive sites over and over again, which I fortunately don't have to do.
Then there was Incarna - no content at all, introducing above bugs, NeX and the door...

Apocrypha was the last good expansion released, but that's 2.5 years old - and I say that as someone who isn't really into wormholes...

Well - just as others, I just log in to train skills, using up my isk for plex - either they release something interesting within the next three years or I'll just quit then... But yeah - had good times with eve and can't say having played another single game for that long...

Kind of have to agree with LCO there. Cept the WH part. Pretty much it's the only aspect of the game keeping me here.

Man, did someone beat you with an ugly stick? I mean really? Can't imagine what you look like in the CQ with the f**ked up lighting and all.

But, anyway, I'm getting ready to pick up a new hobby once I complete my research and planning and then, who knows?

No I'm not - actually I want Mr kidds babies - just imagine - they'd take over TQ!

And yeah - as I said - I kinda liked apocrypha and would probably do wh stuff myself if I was in in need of isk...