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This implementation for skins is terrible and will go the way of the industry teams. Just a prediction...

Minecraft is popular for a reason, customization that is inherent and seamless to the in-game mechanic is the only way this works.

Aurum and that entire out of game interface store concept is an abysmal model (the CSM minutes referenced a need to reduce the number of currencies, I would argue you need to reduce the places you have to go to do stuff like this). Didn't you guys fire the dude that dreamed up this albatross in the first place after monocle gate. Let a bad idea just die, be bold an move on already...or rather, be way behind the curve and just walk away from a bad model.

Please offer a permanent skin that will give the Sleipnir back the original Cyclone based look, I will happily pay 50 PLEX for it.

See post #254
Hope that answers your question.

Here's some further thoughts about time limited ship skins:

Personally, my (PVP) fleet is quite massive in terms of sheer ship numbers. I'm limited by SMA space since my group has to pack up and move every couple months or so, which makes me imagine that other more static groups could have even more extensive ship collections, and I am sitting over 50 different ships in the staging system. Coupled with the fact that ship losses are a fairly rare occurrence for me, this means that ultimately I'm fairly unlikely to fly a given ship more than once or twice in a month.

Therefore, I don't foresee myself ever using some sort of time limited ship skin. I dont like feeling obligated to fly any particular ship since I enjoy flying the exact right ship for the task at hand. I feel the pressure to use a ship before a skin timer times out is even worse design than making the skins permanent, especially since these skins would be paid for (even if indirectly) with real money.

I definitely enjoy skinning ships, but if prices are the way I suspect they will be I think wont use the feature much for most of the "minor" ships in my hangar. For example, I'm not going to pay 50m to skin a rifter, even permanently, and I'm certainly not going to pay 5m to maybe use the ship once and then just have the skin expire. The old "use it until you lose it" system is certainly superior for my (and many others if my experience is accurate) usage traits. I'd like to see you guys at least offer "1-use" skins as an option in the shops in addition to permanent and time limited ones.

I'd also like to reiterate my support for a robust ship editing suite to use in-game, a la Forza or GRID, as countless player (and CCP) made mockups have shown. You could sell corp colors/textures in the shop to ensure that the color schemes stay relatively within the game universe. Premade shapes/stripes to use in the skins and a strict policy on racist/vulgar imagery should keep the worst of it away. I realize that this is far more technically in depth than just selling preexisting schemes in the store but I honestly think it's worth it. Ship customization is probably the number one most requested feature of eve over the years is and a dedicated dev effort across multiple teams to make it possible is certainly worth it.

Is the answer to this question so obvious that it's not worth answering? Or is it off topic because it's not about how we get skins?

SKIN Licenses can affect multiple ships, depends what it says in the license. They could affect T2 and T3 ships quite easily, however the system may not launch with any. Many T2 ships are still reskins of T1 ships so we don't want to cause confusion.

I implore you: Please reconsider the concept of time-limited skins. Nothing good will come from it...

With respect to the proposed SKIN interface, I think overall it's a sound concept and keeps the acquisition, application, modification or removal of skins relatively simple and accessible (particularly for those in wormhole space). However, I do not think there should be an 'unlimited' or 'time-limited' options but rather utilize the current setup of a fixed # of licenses so that these skins actually have some inherent value.

Skins obtained through loot drops should be single usage without any time restrictions. Skins obtained through Aurum should be for a set number of uses (as is currently implemented), again - without any time restrictions.

There are two main reasons the current skin license system has met with a lukewarm reception:
1. The lack of skin variety and class limitations where skins can be applied.
2. The inability to re-skin a pre-rigged ship.

The new SKIN interface removes all obstacles to #2, and it also sounds like both the quantity and quality of skins that are issues in #1 will be vastly improved upon. Once applied a skin should remain with the ship until either destroyed or repackaged and sold on the market (if traded or sold through contract skins should remain as part of the ship). The suggestion of a 4th 'skin' rig which could display a small skin preview in the fitting window would be a welcome addition. And there's minimal reimbursement involved (as only a handful of unique ship types would need to be consolidated).

I have a very strong dislike of these time limited skin licences. I don't always fly my rifter, but when I do I don't want to also pay a monthly fee for it to be shiny. I already pay monthly to fly it anyway. (Or buy a perma-licence, which sounds expensive for my tastes)
Why not instead have destruction limited skins? Meaning that I buy say a 5 use skin license, so that I can paint my rifter some shiny colour. When my rifter goes boom, I lose 1 use on my license. If I never lose my ship, its a permanent licence, but it sticks with the eve mentality of stuff being gone when it blows up.

Also, ship-locked 1 lose licences should be a thing, so that things like victory rattlesnake ect retain their value. Who ever has the ship has a 1 lose licence, end of story. Ship go boom, licence gone, ship gone, welcome to EVE.

- SKINs are a logical place for players to put their flair on a ship without altering their actual performance.
- They should be an in-game mechanic completely outside of any store.
- SKINs should be part of the manufacturing process.
- Can be a post-manufactured process done to an existing hull.
- Can be added to a BPC run (making invention/blueprint copying worth it).

This, completely this.

If we are going to be buying the copyright license to use their logo's and colors, then why does it have to be limited to that specific hull type? One would figure if you buy the license for X paint scheme, that you could apply that scheme to any ship you wanted.

Then when taking into account corp/alliance logos and color schemes, you saying that everyone will have to purchase these licenses for each specific hull type across all how many different ships in the game?

One final question, as I couldn't find it listed in here:

It was mentioned that this was to reduce load and time required to make changes due to the excessive number of effectively duplicate ships with only different color schemes. Does that mean that the overview will no longer show all those variants in the Type column anymore, like will the ship be identified (In game as well as say killmails etc) as a Kador Abbadon or just Abbadon. And if not then how will they be identfied? Or will you have to zoom in on each ship to see if it has a special paint job or not? If you have to zoom in to see it, will it be something that everyone can see automatically without having to 'look at' the specific ship as is the problem with seeing currently fit turrets on other ships.