Player Features and Ideas Discussion

There is no twist. It's an idea for a different game.

Sounds awesome. I would so much support this idea. It goes a little bit against the MMO spirit but if you limit it to say, 2 AI wingman, per account. It would be pretty awesome.

what's the difference

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There's still enough module delay and automation in the game to control several ships with near-perfect efficiency. This is with groups of ships with mixed roles, rather than the often cited copy paste alpha gangs, which is shortsighted and unimaginative.

Basically, everyone's claims that this is basically ISBoxer, **** you are ignorant. Unless your AI Drone alts had perfectly coordinated skills, the timing would be about as staggered as manual target lock and weapon activation.

There's no way to kill ISBoxer to satisfy those in denial, and this isn't about ISBoxer. It's about supporting multiboxing, a product of this game, in a fair way. The only fair solution is proliferation and allowing everyone the option of multiboxing efficiently.

Another option is disallowing more than one client per machine, which I don't have an opinion for or against. If it's what CCP decides is the best course of action in the name of fairness, so be it. But what we have right now is not fair, and CCP's measures against key broadcasting is a nice thought, and nothing more.


Does anyone care to answer my question, rather than make vapid, contrarian posts.

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Answer is easy. Pay to win. How do you lose when you can just buy 15 more guys in incursus to follow you around into every plex, and automatically follow your primaries, rep you, whatev's.

Eve already has mechanics for this: Join a group, become an experienced FC, explore the dark reaches of space with your new wingmen.



Also EDIT: Isboxing is not multi-boxing. Multiboxing you have to watch multiple clients, actively control multiple clients, give each client a command, not just click once and they all do. It's not even about 'timing.' Multi-boxing creates a large split in a players attention, causes him/her to choose which problem is more important to manage, forces him/her to make decisions and errors. ISboxing is all click and done.




*EDITED a quoting errororororor.

Your change would make using the multiple training queue ad vitam eternam mandatory for every player.

Your change would kill the server

Your change would devalue even more the influence of a new player in a big fight.

Your change is bad.

-Training queues are already a bit of an addiction in EVE, how does this change relate to that addiction?

-Server load is covered by the fact that each of your AI drone characters is on an active account. The load is paid for.

-"but new players" is simply false, and the opposite of this change. With it, new players can improve their utility and effectiveness several times faster with multiple characters from the earliest time possible. In fact that's my advice to new players. As soon as they decide EVE is something they will enjoy, they should start two more accounts for the day they finally figure out what to do with them (perhaps two years later).

-From a game design perspective, this concept is win based on the player motivation of wanting power. The general idea of a type of service like games is giving paying customers what they want. This change gives customers as much of what they want as they care to pay for.

This is one of those fundamental, big ticket changes that would make EVE wildly popular, for once. It's also more of an acknowledgement of what is, than some type of catastrophe, because multiple accounts are already offered to players by CCP and are playable.

There are gamers who consider it scrub behavior to criticize others who are willing to play to the limits of a game and their personal potential, which is a lot of what I'm seeing in this thread.

I can understand you are loath to lose a massive advantage, that is understandable and considering the time and treasure a top of the line multi-broadcast set up requires certainly very frustrating.

The fact is that while most multibox (hands up I have the trade alt up and running while I'm online to keep an eye on prices and to put on invention and manufacturing jobs in my spare moments not to mention cyno alts) what you propose will be making multiple accounts virtually mandatory if a player wants to take part in almost any worthwhile activity.

Keep banging the drum, its your right as a paying customer but I reiterate that should a proposal like this ever be adopted and it becomes even more necessary to have multiple accounts just to casually PvP (I hate booster alts to, how neolithic of me) then it will be time to walk away from EvE.

Because the current system still requires players to be responsible for their stuff, for their ships, and their ability to manage them. However much someone else wants to decry it as unfair, the only 'fair' is one account/machine. After that it can ALL be argued as pay to win, even the buying and selling of plex. So one account per machine/person, and no plex. All in game and only in game. That is the only 'fair.' But Eve isn't fair, and has never claimed to be fair. Eve is about choice and consequence and opportunity. You are free to choose to have 15 incursus alts. You are also responsible for flying each one of them. ISboxer removed this, which is why it was deemed in breach of the ToS. You are free to multi-box however many characters you want, but you have to control them all, not expect the computer to, or play only one and expect the others to follow your lead. An 'AI alt' would not require you to fly that ship. That is why this is not a thing, and can't be a thing. Personally I'd be happy if CCP banned every account even suspected of botting/input broadcasting. But that hurts the bottom line too much, so I understand why they don't. When I multi-box, I fly both/all my ships. I give each of them each command. I am still 'flying' each one, as much as 'approach FC and follow primaries' goes.

strength in numbers is already a requirement and it's not your business who is in control of a character. you also are not entitled to casual pvp.