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New T2 Battleships
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Zhaniz
ImperiaI Federation
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2015-02-01 01:32:57 UTC
So i had an idea while bored at work of what could be an idea for the last 4 battleships that need the T2 treatment.

Don't get me wrong the Rokh, Maelstrom, Abaddon and Hyperion are all awesome ships on there own.

so my idea is of a rapid response assault ships of sorts.

these ships would follow the same line as marauders with a bastion module which would give that bit extra in combat.

like a carrier i recon it should be able to use fighters but not a full wing as that would be OP! something along the lines of 2-3 with the ships/skill giving some bonus to them aswell.

i haven't really though of any stats or naming of them yet.

any ideas are welcome.
Anhenka
The New Federation
Sigma Grindset
#2 - 2015-02-01 01:51:44 UTC
Zhaniz wrote:
So i had an idea while bored at work of what could be an idea for the last 4 battleships that need the T2 treatment.

Don't get me wrong the Rokh, Maelstrom, Abaddon and Hyperion are all awesome ships on there own.

so my idea is of a rapid response assault ships of sorts.

these ships would follow the same line as marauders with a bastion module which would give that bit extra in combat.

like a carrier i recon it should be able to use fighters but not a full wing as that would be OP! something along the lines of 2-3 with the ships/skill giving some bonus to them aswell.

i haven't really though of any stats or naming of them yet.
any ideas are welcome.


I think people need to
A: start searching for previous topics.
B: Flesh out their ideas before they post them
C: Stop asking for fighters on subcaps or escort carriers.
D: Stop asking for t2 BS's without a clear and compelling role for them.

So OP, how exactly do you mix "rapid response" and "gets stuck in one place" and get anything worth using.
Also why does the game need this, and why would it benefit?
What strengths of a marauder does this "rapid response" ship give up to... move fast I guess?
What can a faster than normal T2 BS accomplish that couldn't just as easily be done by fitting a nano or two to a normal t1 BS, or a Machariel?
Lugh Crow-Slave
#3 - 2015-02-01 12:19:07 UTC
Zhaniz wrote:
any ideas are welcome.


Use the search

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Colette Kassia
Kassia Industrial Supply
#4 - 2015-02-01 13:34:19 UTC
Dear Sir, I kindly driect you to this thread. from like a week ago.
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#5 - 2015-02-01 13:35:48 UTC
Zhaniz wrote:
So i had an idea while bored at work of what could be an idea for the last 4 battleships that need the T2 treatment.

Don't get me wrong the Rokh, Maelstrom, Abaddon and Hyperion are all awesome ships on there own.

so my idea is of a rapid response assault ships of sorts.

these ships would follow the same line as marauders with a bastion module which would give that bit extra in combat.

like a carrier i recon it should be able to use fighters but not a full wing as that would be OP! something along the lines of 2-3 with the ships/skill giving some bonus to them aswell.

i haven't really though of any stats or naming of them yet.

any ideas are welcome.


To be honest, before we get more T2-battleships, I would rather see development time going into T2-versions of the missing battlecruisers. Oracle, Naga, Tornado and Talos are all fine ships, but deadends due to missing T2-versions.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2015-02-01 13:52:05 UTC
How about you use the search tool before posting?
Helios Panala
#7 - 2015-02-01 14:17:14 UTC
Wow, someones clone got loose. But which one of you is the original?
James Zimmer
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2015-02-01 14:34:27 UTC
This comes up frequently, and in a previous discussion on the matter I remember someone saying that T1 battleships need to be adjusted and given a useful role in the current world dominated by capital ships and T3s, rather than making new T2 battleship hulls that even further obsolete T1 battleships.
Forlorn Wongraven
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#9 - 2015-02-01 14:43:46 UTC
James Zimmer wrote:
This comes up frequently, and in a previous discussion on the matter I remember someone saying that T1 battleships need to be adjusted and given a useful role in the current world dominated by capital ships and T3s, rather than making new T2 battleship hulls that even further obsolete T1 battleships.

BS are in a bad position due to bomb mechanic and easy combat probing. That's why T3's and capitals are popular, they can survive much longer.

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#10 - 2015-02-01 17:58:56 UTC
Owen Levanth wrote:
To be honest, before we get more T2-battleships, I would rather see development time going into T2-versions of the missing battlecruisers. Oracle, Naga, Tornado and Talos are all fine ships, but deadends due to missing T2-versions.

OK I guess I am really out of touch.
It was my understanding that we have tech 2 variants of the BS and BC.
The tech 2 BS are called Marauders.
The tech 2 variants of the BC are called Command ships.

As far as tech 2 versions of the Oracle, Naga etc I say no way, but that is just my opinion.
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-02-01 19:55:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Anhenka wrote:
I think people need to
C: Stop asking for fighters on subcaps or escort carriers.

I don't think people should stop asking for escort carriers, but yes it is redundant.

Here's my idea for T2 battleships: no bastion module, just an all-out attack defense platform with T2 resists, 8 weapons, and no drone bay. Give em defense, range, damage, and tracking. Amarr=lasers, Caldari=missiles (no heavy missile bonuses), Gallente=hybrids, Minmatar=projectiles.

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Hakan MacTrew
Konrakas Forged
Solyaris Chtonium
#12 - 2015-02-01 21:16:57 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
To be honest, before we get more T2-battleships, I would rather see development time going into T2-versions of the missing battlecruisers. Oracle, Naga, Tornado and Talos are all fine ships, but deadends due to missing T2-versions.

OK I guess I am really out of touch.
It was my understanding that we have tech 2 variants of the BS and BC.
The tech 2 BS are called Marauders.
The tech 2 variants of the BC are called Command ships.

As far as tech 2 versions of the Oracle, Naga etc I say no way, but that is just my opinion.

You're right, we do. There is also BLOP's ships.

I would love to see T2 varients of both the old 'tier 3' Battleships AND Battle Cruisers. The problem is "What role would they fill?" And that is a question that is very difficult to answer without the result being very unbalanced and/or game breaking.

I did like the idea of a T2 ABC 'Super Heavy Bomber', but again, very broken.

I REALLY liked the idea of a 'carrier' style heavy BS, but again, broken.

So many awesome ideas that just can't happen because they are so game breaking.

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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#13 - 2015-02-02 13:48:27 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
Owen Levanth wrote:
To be honest, before we get more T2-battleships, I would rather see development time going into T2-versions of the missing battlecruisers. Oracle, Naga, Tornado and Talos are all fine ships, but deadends due to missing T2-versions.

OK I guess I am really out of touch.
It was my understanding that we have tech 2 variants of the BS and BC.
The tech 2 BS are called Marauders.
The tech 2 variants of the BC are called Command ships.

As far as tech 2 versions of the Oracle, Naga etc I say no way, but that is just my opinion.


You must be really out of touch if you think the Command ships use the old tier 3 BCs. Did you never actually take a look at those?

But you're right technically we have T2-BCs and BSs already. That's not however what the OP and I want. We want even more of them! Little difference. P