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In-game spreadsheets

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Van Beyus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2015-01-31 03:22:00 UTC
Set any property value to a cell.
Dynamically updated market values.
All your work safely stored in your game account.
There's not much else to say about it besides please.
You know you want it. So please...

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Commander Ted
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-01-31 03:26:34 UTC
I don't think making an excel clone is something CCP should prioritize.

Whats wrong with multi monitors or alt-tab?

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Ines Tegator
Serious Business Inc. Ltd. LLC. etc.
#3 - 2015-01-31 03:55:20 UTC
Google docs works in the IGB last time I tried it.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#4 - 2015-01-31 04:25:12 UTC
Office 365 is M$ Office online and comes with your Windows™ account. Excel™ is included.

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Van Beyus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2015-01-31 13:00:56 UTC
All those solutions require you to use different systems from different companies to build and store your spreadsheets. Besides none of those lets you directly import a game value without going through a complicated process of setting up a database and a connection to an API to gather the data.
If CCP could implement a simple spreadsheet, with only the most basic operations, but that could import values from both item attributes and the market that would be heaven for players.

Commander Ted wrote:

don't think making an excel clone is something CCP should prioritize.

Whats wrong with multi monitors or alt-tab?

It's weird to read that, Commander Ted, because EvE is infamously knows as spreadsheets in space. That may sound like a criticism but anyone that plays industry knows that's really what it's about, and we love it. Why not have an in-game tool that we can use for that purpose? The first time I played EvE I found it strange that there was an in-game calculator, but with little time it made perfect sense.

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#6 - 2015-01-31 19:34:18 UTC
-1 a thousand times over.

Grab onto your favorite search engine and look around, everything you have asked for is available in many places around the net so forth and use these very well done tools.

We have many problems in game that NEED dev time and I do not want them wasting that dev time on fluff like this when you can simply go forth and find the tools that work for you. Once they have all of the ships. modules and everything else in the game balanced and working well then they can attend to things like this,

Since the in game browser is going away due to security and other issues I suspect that you will never see anything like this in game.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#7 - 2015-01-31 20:14:58 UTC
Ines Tegator wrote:
Google docs works in the IGB last time I tried it.


nah it crashes it now
Ines Tegator
Serious Business Inc. Ltd. LLC. etc.
#8 - 2015-01-31 20:25:41 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Ines Tegator wrote:
Google docs works in the IGB last time I tried it.


nah it crashes it now


:(
Van Beyus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2015-01-31 20:27:57 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
-1 a thousand times over.

Grab onto your favorite search engine and look around, everything you have asked for is available in many places around the net so forth and use these very well done tools.

We have many problems in game that NEED dev time and I do not want them wasting that dev time on fluff like this when you can simply go forth and find the tools that work for you. Once they have all of the ships. modules and everything else in the game balanced and working well then they can attend to things like this,

Since the in game browser is going away due to security and other issues I suspect that you will never see anything like this in game.

You obviously never used a spreadsheet in your life. It's one of the simplest pieces of software one can build. It exists practically since the born of computers. It is just a bunch of slots for data with a small formula filter on each one. The rest of it is just fancy graphical functionality I personally don't care about. There's no possible way for it to present a security issue to the game.

I shouldn't need to use third party tools for such a trivial job. EvE industrial players NEEDS this. Whoever says he doesn't need a spreadsheet to play industry is probably doing it wrong.

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Iain Cariaba
#10 - 2015-01-31 20:45:26 UTC
Van Beyus wrote:
Donnachadh wrote:
-1 a thousand times over.

Grab onto your favorite search engine and look around, everything you have asked for is available in many places around the net so forth and use these very well done tools.

We have many problems in game that NEED dev time and I do not want them wasting that dev time on fluff like this when you can simply go forth and find the tools that work for you. Once they have all of the ships. modules and everything else in the game balanced and working well then they can attend to things like this,

Since the in game browser is going away due to security and other issues I suspect that you will never see anything like this in game.

You obviously never used a spreadsheet in your life. It's one of the simplest pieces of software one can build. It exists practically since the born of computers. It is just a bunch of slots for data with a small formula filter on each one. The rest of it is just fancy graphical functionality I personally don't care about. There's no possible way for it to present a security issue to the game.

I shouldn't need to use third party tools for such a trivial job. EvE industrial players NEEDS this. Whoever says he doesn't need a spreadsheet to play industry is probably doing it wrong.

No. Use any one of the many currently existing spread sheets and a wonderful key combination they call alt-tab.
Van Beyus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2015-01-31 20:48:06 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
No. Use any one of the many currently existing spread sheets and a wonderful key combination they call alt-tab.

Alt-tab doesn't allow you to dynamically import market values.

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Iain Cariaba
#12 - 2015-01-31 21:01:40 UTC
Van Beyus wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
No. Use any one of the many currently existing spread sheets and a wonderful key combination they call alt-tab.

Alt-tab doesn't allow you to dynamically import market values.

Sure they can. Lots of people have figured out how to use APIs to do that, it's how eve-central and other sites work.
Van Beyus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2015-01-31 21:05:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Van Beyus
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Van Beyus wrote:
Iain Cariaba wrote:
No. Use any one of the many currently existing spread sheets and a wonderful key combination they call alt-tab.

Alt-tab doesn't allow you to dynamically import market values.

Sure they can. Lots of people have figured out how to use APIs to do that, it's how eve-central and other sites work.

Eve-central uses cached data files. Such use has been declared against the EULA by CCP but they said they wouldn't take any actions against prolific members of the community. There's also CREST but it's not documented and I'm not sure it's market API is even out yet. Anyway, those are WAY more complicated methods than just clicking and dragging a market value into an in-game spreadsheet cell.

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Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
Citizen's Star Republic
#14 - 2015-01-31 21:58:53 UTC
You discussed this topic in another thread you created.

Reported for redundacy
Van Beyus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2015-01-31 22:28:32 UTC
Max Deveron wrote:
You discussed this topic in another thread you created.

Reported for redundacy

That's ridiculous. You're reporting because you're a douchebag. I already got a thread locked for no reason because people don't like the way I discuss. Please link where I was discussing spreadsheets in-game. I only suggested it, realized it was a good idea for a new discussion and opened this thread. What a dork.

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Iain Cariaba
#16 - 2015-01-31 23:24:29 UTC
Oh, look what I found using a simple forum search.

There, you now have spreadsheets in game.

/thread
Van Beyus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2015-01-31 23:37:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Van Beyus
Iain Cariaba wrote:
Oh, look what I found using a simple forum search.

There, you now have spreadsheets in game.

/thread

1 - That thread is locked.
2 - It suggests Google docs functionality inside the IGB wich is not what I suggested.
3 - Apparently, from what people posted in the thread we're discussing now, the IGB is being discontinued.

It really sucks when people are so diligently dedicated to put down an idea without really taking it into consideration for reasons that have nothing to do with the idea itself.

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Nolen Cadmar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2015-01-31 23:49:50 UTC
As many have said already CCP does not need to spend time developing in-game spreadsheets. There a lots of ways to make the OOG. Excel and Google docs are work just fine. I'd rather CCP invest their time in any of a million more important things.

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Van Beyus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2015-01-31 23:52:23 UTC
Nolen Cadmar wrote:
As many have said already CCP does not need to spend time developing in-game spreadsheets. There a lots of ways to make the OOG. Excel and Google docs are work just fine. I'd rather CCP invest their time in any of a million more important things.
This is not a reasonable argument. Not only because spreadsheets are easy to develop but also because you can evoke it upon any suggestion. "No, I don't like this idea, devs should work in another thing".

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#20 - 2015-02-01 00:35:56 UTC
Van Beyus wrote:
Nolen Cadmar wrote:
As many have said already CCP does not need to spend time developing in-game spreadsheets. There a lots of ways to make the OOG. Excel and Google docs are work just fine. I'd rather CCP invest their time in any of a million more important things.
This is not a reasonable argument. Not only because spreadsheets are easy to develop but also because you can evoke it upon any suggestion. "No, I don't like this idea, devs should work in another thing".


So why don't ya write one instead of complaining?

And zee answer is: you can't.

You contradict yourself. You can make Excel™ to poll the crest api with some simple requests, it's already there and since EVE is running on M$ SQL Server you will find a billion topics and things to do just that.

I hate maket monkeys anyway. They should all biomass themselves and CCP should feel bad to giving them control over thing they shouldn't have control over.

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