Market Discussions

I'm confused, is 100%/month considered a good ROI for a multi-hundred man effort?

It seems you'd make more ISK mining veldspar for 3 months.

Except that it wasn't infinite scalability, now was it ?

The two big Jita purchase rushes when it kinda' started were for somewhere around 1 bil units total on top of the usual oxytope traffic, and those purchases were made at an average of around 550 per, so call it 550 bil "buy in" costs for Jita stockpiles.
Let's assume for a moment the unthinkable that almost all of those purchased isotopes were Goon purchases, and that in the next two and a half months or so, almost all LATER sales when prices were high enough were made by Goons (that would still account for less than a third of the total sales, and most of the sales near peak prices), for an average price of around 1350 per, give or take.

So 800 ISK profit per piece give or take (ignore taxes and other trivialities) times 1 bil units or so equals 800 bil maximum theoretical revenue from the Jita side of things. That's approximately an average of 60% RoI per month, by the way, give or take (145% across the entire op - no idea where you got the 500% from).

The resulting 800 bil ISK might be nothing to scoff off at from an individual's perspective, but at an alliance level, not all that great. A technetium tower can yield about 20 bil ISK in the rough interval that the blockade happened, so that's the revenue of 40 technetium towers. There is at least one region with almost twice as many tech moons, and a few others with about as many.

Sure, maybe it happened in a similar fashion in other regions, but I don't think the rest of the markets combined are that much more than Jita alone.
So, yeah, the fearless leaders could have theoretically made quite a bundle

its a trap!

Pfft a trillion ISK, I can make that in three months mining veldspar

Goons made me about 100 billion isk. No complaints from this end. If some one else thinks they can do a better job than the Goons, I say let them try, the more the merrier. The Goons get bonus points however for starting the ball rolling.

Actually, that's the high-ball estimate for Jita. And nobody said it was an epic fail. Just that you might have been able to make even more cash by focusing all that effort on something else instead.

Made billions
Killed miners

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

Which is basically why the notion that goons are here to destroy the game is a silly one, because we're not playing the same game as the rest of you to begin with.

Well, I sold mine for close to 2k, got to love those bonds. All 50m of them

I'd guess somebody missed out on some ISKfun.

Ian Moone

I can tell you one thing that there was no plan for crashing the marked, it just happened. I had 1.7 mil ish with my alt that I dropped to 1250, from 1300ish (Fatlity) to get a quick sale since i was out of oxy due to many reason among that is the dotlan killings. And the rest followed to 1100 ish. That was a 1h ago or so.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Brapelille No killing there, etc from the Goons ( When they stopped, I was out)


A couple of things. The 2k+ mark on lasted a cople of hour's then it was a back to 1600 ish. So, that many sold there stuff then, had to be by a failed marked speculation. And the volume that day, cant make that many billions as told here. Oxygen was more of playing bingo, and the profit was just 10-15% higher than the other Isotopes.

The story is that 1600 ish was the sell price on average. But, if you did go in when it was around 500+ before the "Ice war" then you made the real isk...