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Proposal: Wanderer-class Mobile Exploration Platform

Author
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#1 - 2015-01-30 11:26:39 UTC
PROPOSED SHIP CLASS – “WANDERER” CLASS MOBILE EXPLORATION PLATFORM

Manufacturer: Sisters of EVE

Slot Layout:
Turret Hardpoints: 0
Launcher Hardpoints: 0
High Power Slots: 2
Medium Power Slots: 6
Low Power Slots: 3
Capital Rig Slots: 3

Role:

The Mobile Exploration Platform is a ship geared toward exploration, and survival in Wormhole space for those trying to carve out a niche, or just operate for a few days. As a result the Sisters of EVE developed a ship which could provide pilots with a safe haven for short term operations. The vessel, with usage of a specialized Localization Module, the vessel will deploy a small shield bubble, and function much like a POS in the sense of not being able to move. The shield bubble will deploy to be 7500m is size from the centerpoint. This will allow two ships to safely sit within. The EHP of this shield (and the deployed ship) will be something to the effect of 2.5M EHP when in deployed mode. When deployed, 6 specialized Sentry Drones will deploy in stationary positions surrounding the platform with a 30 kilometer range with approximately 25K EHP with 99% resists when in deployed mode while ship present. This module will only be usable once per 24 hour period, but will be able to be forced out of deployment mode. The module will require isotope-based fuels. The ship will be capable of accommodating one Strategic Cruiser (largest type), one scan frigate (largest type) and one harvest frigate.

Bonuses:
5% bonus to ECM Burst strength and range per level

Role Bonus:
10% reduction in ship mass per level
5% bonus to scan strength per level
This ship will be incapable of utilizing Covert Ops Cloaking Devices. It will be a shield tank, capable of fitting a basic passive tank, a prop mod and an ECM Burst. This ship will also be able to utilize an Expanded Probe Launcher.

Any ship being carried by it will drop on a percentage base (possible loot piñata). The security of this ship will be based on either coordination with other pilots, or just pilot skill.

Any thoughts, questions, comments?

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2015-01-30 20:04:01 UTC
Why?
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#3 - 2015-01-30 22:44:59 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Why?

To make day tripping into WH more viable for smaller corporations, and to aid in establishing an operating point for those trying to set up in WH. Ideally reducing the barrier to entry into the field of exploration.

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Iain Cariaba
#4 - 2015-02-01 19:16:04 UTC
Jack Carrigan wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Why?

To make day tripping into WH more viable for smaller corporations, and to aid in establishing an operating point for those trying to set up in WH. Ideally reducing the barrier to entry into the field of exploration.

Yet everything you need to do that is already in the game, and at a hell of a lot cheaper price than this ship would be. A small POS, fuel to run for a few hours for your "day trip," SMA, guns, and ammo will all easily fit into a blockade runner, cost less than 150mil, and can all go up in about 20 minutes. Having a ship that would potentially cost at least ten times what a basic small POS setup would cost, more than likely somewhere in the range of 20-30 times, is not "reducing the barrier to entry."
Quattras Peione
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-02-01 22:49:04 UTC
The idea of a force field-projecting ship is not a new one - a cursory look at the Features & Ideas subforum (where this belongs) would show that.

I'm not against the idea, in fact I like some things about it. This sounds like it would make an excellent forward base in a combat operation.

Dr. Quattras Alvar Peione

No, I'm not that kind of doctor.

Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#6 - 2015-02-01 23:52:57 UTC
Quattras Peione wrote:
The idea of a force field-projecting ship is not a new one - a cursory look at the Features & Ideas subforum (where this belongs) would show that.

I'm not against the idea, in fact I like some things about it. This sounds like it would make an excellent forward base in a combat operation.


That is another use for it, especially if you have a small group that is effectively stuck in enemy space until help can arrive (due to current jump limitations, or as space expands, lord knows there would be systems without stations. So set up a safe, drop this ship into localization mode and then do work.

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Angry RedGummyBear
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-02-02 20:59:27 UTC
Just a few questions:

Why would this ship be shield tank rather than armor like every other SOE?
Why would it come with defenses? Why not allow the ship to support a few T3's and finally give t3's the ability to resubsystem, then actually allow the players to defend themselves?
What is the major ease of this vs the small pos discussed above? Why devote development resources to this rather than just allowing for a more fuel efficient x-small pos?
Why SOE vs ORE? It seems like an ORE BS/BC-size ship would probably fit this role better... Allow it to seige into a similar thing, but with ore compression capability, a modest fleet hangar array with repair/refit support, sizable holds for specific raw materials such as ore, raw gas, etc... something kind of like a rorqual light...
There's more to daytripping in wormholes than exploration. Might be interesting to give it a jump/bridge range limited to industrial types only (to help get resources back into hi-sec/past gatecamps). Who knows? Maybe this will be the ORE T3 battlecruiser. But then again, there is probably a dozen things that these capabilities would break.
Quattras Peione
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-02-03 05:55:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Quattras Peione
The potential that I see here is for a FOB that is not directly tied to a moon. I like the idea of being able to set up shop in the deep black, rather than attached to a celestial. In sovereignty systems this would allow for more covert action, as the sov holder wouldn't receive the announcement that someone had anchored a POS at one of their moons. Also, the ability to tear down and re-deploy at a moment's notice would be a game changer for small corps like mine with limited manpower. Not everyone can have an army of alts at their command. Everything I do, I do on my main.

Edit: I do agree that this makes more sense as an ORE vessel than SoE.

Dr. Quattras Alvar Peione

No, I'm not that kind of doctor.

Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#9 - 2015-02-03 08:05:03 UTC
Quattras Peione wrote:
The potential that I see here is for a FOB that is not directly tied to a moon. I like the idea of being able to set up shop in the deep black, rather than attached to a celestial. In sovereignty systems this would allow for more covert action, as the sov holder wouldn't receive the announcement that someone had anchored a POS at one of their moons. Also, the ability to tear down and re-deploy at a moment's notice would be a game changer for small corps like mine with limited manpower. Not everyone can have an army of alts at their command. Everything I do, I do on my main.

Edit: I do agree that this makes more sense as an ORE vessel than SoE.


The concept of a deep space FOB was exactly what I was going for. Have a scanner set up a safe and deploy this ship to operate from for a few people.

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Cora Namoor
Anson Astrometrics And Assembly
#10 - 2015-02-08 21:18:50 UTC
Quattras Peione wrote:
The potential that I see here is for a FOB that is not directly tied to a moon. I like the idea of being able to set up shop in the deep black, rather than attached to a celestial. In sovereignty systems this would allow for more covert action, as the sov holder wouldn't receive the announcement that someone had anchored a POS at one of their moons. Also, the ability to tear down and re-deploy at a moment's notice would be a game changer for small corps like mine with limited manpower. Not everyone can have an army of alts at their command. Everything I do, I do on my main.

Edit: I do agree that this makes more sense as an ORE vessel than SoE.


I also agree this should be an ORE ship with some kind of direction scanner interference within the bubble. You can be scanned out but not just fluked upon. The ecm burst wouldn't work well with other SOE ships is what put me off. SOE needs a CovOp carrier ftw!
sabre906
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-02-24 00:42:12 UTC
Quattras Peione wrote:
The potential that I see here is for a FOB that is not directly tied to a moon. I like the idea of being able to set up shop in the deep black, rather than attached to a celestial. In sovereignty systems this would allow for more covert action, as the sov holder wouldn't receive the announcement that someone had anchored a POS at one of their moons. Also, the ability to tear down and re-deploy at a moment's notice would be a game changer for small corps like mine with limited manpower. Not everyone can have an army of alts at their command. Everything I do, I do on my main.

Edit: I do agree that this makes more sense as an ORE vessel than SoE.


Sov system usage is what makes it game breaking. The big guys will prop up these things all over space of small entities, making their systems uninhabitable. It's the kind of fast easy ehp setup that only supers can grind down.

Restrict it to w space, and it might not be quite game breaking.