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Bounty system - Requirments to lay a bounty on a player

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Alexi Drakenovic
Doomheim
#21 - 2015-01-12 03:31:44 UTC
admiral root wrote:
Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
once I get to the PVP arena


On the off chance that you didn't start this thread in order to troll and / or increase the bounty on your head, New Eden *is* the PvP arena in this game.


No not to troll honestly, and i didn't expect people to up the bounty to be honest, I am just trying to make it work so it stays in role-play, and i know the whole game is PVP but i mean where I can leave station, make a jump, join a fleet, and then jump again and boom! Fight time! That is what i meant.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#22 - 2015-01-12 04:25:10 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
once I get to the PVP arena


On the off chance that you didn't start this thread in order to troll and / or increase the bounty on your head, New Eden *is* the PvP arena in this game.


No not to troll honestly, and i didn't expect people to up the bounty to be honest, I am just trying to make it work so it stays in role-play, and i know the whole game is PVP but i mean where I can leave station, make a jump, join a fleet, and then jump again and boom! Fight time! That is what i meant.

Joining up with an established Faction Warfare corporation and living in low-sec will be your best bet. Learn from them and make friends (even with non-role players).


Look... I know you are big on the whole role play thing, you "want to stick to your story," and that sometimes we who post on the forums can come down a little hard...

... but the reality you have to understand that there are quite a few other players who don't really care about role play. This is doubly so when game mechanics are concerned as such changes affect everyone (role player or non role player alike).
You also have to understand that things can get REALLY messy (like... REALLY, REALLY messy) and not fit into any real category of "lawful" or "unlawful" (or any of the above).


I guess what I'm trying to say here is this: don't take your role playing TOO seriously. There is going to be a point in time where you will have to make choices that may conflict with how you want to do things. And you can't expect the mechanical system to accommodate you on that basis alone.

For example:
In low-sec, you may be confronted by a player using Caldari character... in a Caldari corporation (NPC or player)... in Caldari space... and you will have to choose between shooting first (and taking a security penalty) or letting him/her make the first move which may result in your demise.
Said Character has a positive security status and much higher faction standings with the Caldari than you do.
What do you do?

Here's another one;
You are now part of the Caldari Militia in a player corporation. Another Caldari Militia corporation has a problem with your corporation (for whatever reason). They declare war on your corp.
You now have to shoot other players within your own Militia in addition to your enemies (the Gallente and Minmatar).
What do you do?
(NOTE: yes... this does happen... I was part of Faction Warfare for years and have more than once participated in such wars against my own Militia... mostly due to issues that can be boiled down to "ONLY ONE EGO MAY SURVIVE")
Alexi Drakenovic
Doomheim
#23 - 2015-01-12 04:39:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexi Drakenovic
ShahFluffers wrote:
Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
admiral root wrote:
Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
once I get to the PVP arena


On the off chance that you didn't start this thread in order to troll and / or increase the bounty on your head, New Eden *is* the PvP arena in this game.


No not to troll honestly, and i didn't expect people to up the bounty to be honest, I am just trying to make it work so it stays in role-play, and i know the whole game is PVP but i mean where I can leave station, make a jump, join a fleet, and then jump again and boom! Fight time! That is what i meant.

Joining up with an established Faction Warfare corporation and living in low-sec will be your best bet. Learn from them and make friends (even with non-role players).


Look... I know you are big on the whole role play thing, you "want to stick to your story," and that sometimes we who post on the forums can come down a little hard...

... but the reality you have to understand that there are quite a few other players who don't really care about role play. This is doubly so when game mechanics are concerned as such changes affect everyone (role player or non role player alike).
You also have to understand that things can get REALLY messy (like... REALLY, REALLY messy) and not fit into any real category of "lawful" or "unlawful" (or any of the above).


I guess what I'm trying to say here is this: don't take your role playing TOO seriously. There is going to be a point in time where you will have to make choices that may conflict with how you want to do things. And you can't expect the mechanical system to accommodate you on that basis alone.

For example:
In low-sec, you may be confronted by a player using Caldari character... in a Caldari corporation (NPC or player)... in Caldari space... and you will have to choose between shooting first (and taking a security penalty) or letting him/her make the first move which may result in your demise.
Said Character has a positive security status and much higher faction standings with the Caldari than you do.
What do you do?

Here's another one;
You are now part of the Caldari Militia in a player corporation. Another Caldari Militia corporation has a problem with your corporation (for whatever reason). They declare war on your corp.
You now have to shoot other players within your own Militia in addition to your enemies (the Gallente and Minmatar).
What do you do?
(NOTE: yes... this does happen... I was part of Faction Warfare for years and have more than once participated in such wars against my own Militia... mostly due to issues that can be boiled down to "ONLY ONE EGO MAY SURVIVE")


Yeah I am big on it, but I won't let it ruin or limit me, thanks for the advice and that though, seriously, it is good to get different views and all that, and everything to do with the game as a learning curve like a mountain, so thank you!

And yeah, I am trying to make as many friends in both PvE and PvP parts of this game, as it makes it better when you have people to talk to, and yes, I do break character to talk to them, and not sound like and idiot, and i have other players online who do the role-play with me (Corp mate mainly) and yeah.

And I can see what you mean, however in that situation I could always turn it to role-play.. Maybe it was the Broker under the guise of someone else, that kinda thing, but I know it will not always work like that.. I just.. Honestly my life sucks, all it is is work and home, and this is my only escape at the moment (Live about 3 hours from work, so not much time for social stuff really) so i like to become someone different if that makes sense, and yes I know it is stupid, so troll away at that, but anyways.

And WHAT? Your own Militia can declare a war? On a friendly militia? That is stupid.. And it happens often?.. Please say no? I am thinking I might just go null instead now..

Thanks again!
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#24 - 2015-01-12 05:03:54 UTC
Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
thank you!

No worries. Shoot me a mail if you need some advice about something in-game.

Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
Honestly my life sucks

You are one of us. That is why you are here.

We have milk and cookies in the back... booze can be found in the room off that side of the hall (try not to spill)... and Antimatter ammo is available at the counter for 18 ISK a unit. Blink

Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
And WHAT? Your own Militia can declare a war? On a friendly militia? That is stupid.. And it happens often?.. Please say no? I am thinking I might just go null instead now..

Lol
I think the phrase, "when it rains it pours" is an apt description of the whole thing.

Inter-militia wars don't happen often... but when they do it is drama all around! P

And null-politics are even worse as egos are bigger, escape routes are fewer, and the consequences much larger in scope.


Like I said... in EVE, things can get REALLY messy (because "freedom" is a messy thing). In order to survive this you have to be just as flexible.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#25 - 2015-01-12 15:18:59 UTC
Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
To whom it may concern,

Hello, I am a recent player of this awesome game, but I am deeply into it already, especially the role-play element, i just find it awesome, and while i understand being "ganked" and scammed are actually legal parts to the game, and I love that, but the bounty system I believe needs to be looked at, for intance, you need a reason to place a bounty, you can't place them on innocent players and the like, as I am a very honourable Ishukone Capsuleer and don't engage in any pirating activities and yet a player placed a bounty on my head, purely for the lol's.. This honestly annoys me to no end as now my characted appears to be a criminal, I would like to ask for a change to be implimented, and if possible the bounty from my head removed if possible.

Thank you for taking the time to read my request and troubles.

Regards, Alexi Duo Drakenovic
Ishukone Reserve Military Division


this has been a problem since day 0 of the new bounty system that's suppose to encourage bounty hunting and keep people from using their alts to kill a pod and claim their billions in bounty

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

Mag's
Azn Empire
#26 - 2015-01-12 15:45:36 UTC
There are no innocent players in Eve. If someone wishes to place a bounty upon another player, it's their choice and their reason alone that matters.

As CCP Eterne once said.
CCP Eterne wrote:
I am completely fine with placing bounties just out of random feelings of spite.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Aspringer Morani
C5 Flight
Fraternity.
#27 - 2015-01-16 03:28:00 UTC
Just tell me where to find you, and I will remove your bounty from you. Bring a tissue, and flashlight.
Safe flying.
Alexi Drakenovic
Doomheim
#28 - 2015-01-16 03:40:35 UTC
Aspringer Morani wrote:
Just tell me where to find you, and I will remove your bounty from you. Bring a tissue, and flashlight.
Safe flying.


Haha! Thanks for the offer, but i have no problem with it to be honest, i just thought a different system would be better is all, haha!

And a CCP member wrote that? Hahah! that is kinda funny.

But 1 small correction, their are some innocent players in EVE, but nobody cares about innocents when you are a demigod, haha! Anyways, thanks for all the replies guys, gave me some different points of view so thank you!
Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow
#29 - 2015-01-30 11:36:30 UTC
Alexi Drakenovic wrote:
To whom it may concern,

Hello, I am a recent player of this awesome game, but I am deeply into it already, especially the role-play element, i just find it awesome, and while i understand being "ganked" and scammed are actually legal parts to the game, and I love that, but the bounty system I believe needs to be looked at, for intance, you need a reason to place a bounty, you can't place them on innocent players and the like, as I am a very honourable Ishukone Capsuleer and don't engage in any pirating activities and yet a player placed a bounty on my head, purely for the lol's.. This honestly annoys me to no end as now my characted appears to be a criminal, I would like to ask for a change to be implimented, and if possible the bounty from my head removed if possible.

Thank you for taking the time to read my request and troubles.

Regards, Alexi Duo Drakenovic
Ishukone Reserve Military Division


No.

I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.

||CEO: Order of the Shadow||Executor: The Revenant Order||Creator: Bowhead||

Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2015-01-30 22:08:23 UTC
IF bounties meant something

IF there was a possible way to be a bounty hunter

THEN you might have an argument for modifying things but some bounties are placed for out of game reasons. Meta gaming bounties are common.

I would like to see the bounty system reworked, heavily but until that day I will not ask for a limit on what is a metagame item as opposed to an actual offensive tactic like wardecs

so like Jack said above . . . no

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