Warfare & Tactics

He was disgruntled because he put a ton of his free time into calmil but got almost zilch of a response.

I seem to recall he once said he was in militia just to recruit for 0,0 (If it was someone else, correct me).

Sad really. Let this be a lesson to anyone aspiring to become more than an 'x' in militia chat, you will be challenged, you will see dark times, do not just raise your hands up and leave at the first sign of adversity. Because nothing will come easy and adversity will be a constant in your rise.

I learned this the hard way when WBR was faced with adversity I tried and tried then up and left. Others up and leave to the opposing militia thinking the grass is greener there (psst it is'nt). Lessons learned.

He wouldn't be the first to learn that lesson.. I own http://www.factionwarfare.com/ and I tried 2 different times to start a information portal for FW on that site. I set up free forums for each Militia as well as free KB's all having unique themes for each Militia. Was also offering Militia corps private forums.

The first time I tried while I was in Minmatar I wrote a lot of fitting guides and made several skill plans for newer players to help them get started. You know that stuff that gets asked 100s of times daily in each Militia. I also was trying to set up a joint KB to have accurate stats across all 4 Militias at one place.

I ended up with 2 guys posting a few helpful guides but other than that got no support from FW members.

I tried again when I joined Caldari.. This was even b4 we had the KB loss I tried to set the site up as a unified KB and couldn't even get the major Caldari corps at the time to help support by adding their APIs.. So after that I wasn't going to bother with redoing any of the guides I had done the first go around and the site has sat there since.

My goal was to make a site for all 4 Militias that could point new players to as well as having a central KB system. I had hoped that by doing this there could be enough input from the players to use it as a tool to help push CCP into fixing FW. Unfortunately this fell on death ears from all 4 Militias.

oh god why do you forsake me? Caldari won jack all... There is nothing for taking systems. Thats why I laugh at the Galls going "whooo we're winning systems" after 3 years of going "winning systems is lame!".

Wars are won on morale, and Caldari have never had morale, even the good corps kept to themselves never giving the rest morale, a few good players tried but they tried do it as a school. Now its time to do it as fun!

true, i spent alot more time, isk and effort into cal militia than i really should have. short run through
- im unemployed (pay accounts with isk),
- sink all my isk into benefits for militia (bout 8bil total),
- spend all my time making websites and such and ignoring wife and kids,
- calmil became work and no fun,
- calmil and friends start shooting me,
- galmil offers me fun, i accept

i probably shouldnt have started this thread in an emo rage, but it was either vent my frustration here, or in real life affecting my wife and 4 kids. the forum option was a no-brainer imo

Jess makes real good points, but I hasten to add the Gallente too started with small corps. SoTF, QCats were low double figures when I first got to know them. But they actively recruited and grew. Grew a little too big for FW imho.

The only reason for corps is to set up fits, and make the CEO rich - I just want people to X up and if they die in a horror fit expect some "constructive" critique.

No, really... what's wrong about forming in highsec? My point on this matter is simple: if FC asks to form in lowsec, he has reasons, if he asks to form in highsec, he has reasons too.
If you are talking about Nourv, it is very nice system to form a fleet: Jita is only a couple of jumps away, plus the system is swarmed with militia and forming fleet won't spike the system and alert possible enemy scouts, it's a really nice place to hide your fleet ;)

Mutnin is spot on with some of his comments.

Although some corps did come and go with the sole intention of recruiting people and then buggering off to pastures new with an inflated member base.

Now the difference is with some corps in Gallente, particularly mine is that i/we formed my corp with the single purpose of having FW fun - 95% of the people that joined us were from within FW or friends of people in FW - Now, going on to what Evil said about becoming too big for FW, again hes spot on, trying to keep everyone interested / involved / having fun etc is near enough impossible when you get to a certain size / organisation, so you try new things, but we always came back cos this is our roots and where the majority of us enjoy playing the most (and on record now, i state we 99.9% will not leave FW)

My point is, because most of the successful Gallente corps roots are 99.9% FW, weve been together since pretty much the beginning, weve had our fall outs, weve had our in-militia wars, weve fought together, weve died together and weve pretty much still stuck together and get on. We have a number of Fc's from different corps all doing there bit and we mostly all share each others comms which means if nothings going on we just generally talk rollocks and take the **** out of each other.

Caldari basing from Enaluri was a great idea, imho you need a sense of a "home" system, somewhere where if people come you want to boot them out as quickly as possible - it kinda gets things to mean something with being based there and creates a bit of a purpose from being there too. But, if you get too many people wanting to be king **** then it simply wont work - speaking from experience from when the MDP finally broke up, too many egos simply do not work and people then start to choose sides rather than concentrating on what we actually were supposed to.

Fingers crossed with what Evil Synns is trying to do it will bring some fun and some nice ganks back and raise morale - the rest will snowball as people will WANT to be get involved and be part of it and im sure Mr Synns will quite happily tell people to naff off :)

Thanks not only for wasting out time with this thread, but showing us once again the dangers of becoming addicted to a MMO's.