EVE General Discussion

If we're going to be realistic about it, CONCORD still has a lock timer.

Though I have to say, in a few months, that's probably going to be exactly the way CCP addresses this thing.

So, suppose you have access to two -10 eager globby gankers and want to pop a bumped/flagged freighter.....

What would be the best way to employ them? Anyone optimized this yet?

A) Have both chars 'hyperdunk' - ie both warp between the ganksite and the stash of shuttles.....

or

B) Have one ganker simply stay at the site of the gank - while the second GCC'd character stays in station and undocks noobships every 45 seconds or so to constantly draw Concord away from the gank site? (alternatively the second character could sit in a cloud of shuttles and accomplish the same thing if no station is present in system)

Advantage of A)

twice as much damage delivered during each iteration - however twice as many shuttles and concord spawns generated. Firing coordination required to get the most out of both gank ships.

Advantage of B)

-no warping around in a pod, and no shuttles required if a station is there. The ganking pod can simply stay next to the target and hop into a new gank ship every minute or so after the Concord spawn is drawn away by ganker #2. Each character has a relatively simple repetitive task.

(IE, undock, get killed, dock, undock, get killed, rinse repeat - or board ship, shoot, get killed, wait for spawn to leave, board ship, shoot, etc....)

Lol and assuming we are being realistic lets also just walk around on earth and craft real life things and do nothing outside of our current known environment....I've always wanted to be a corn farmer.

Solution to what? What's the problem?

No. If we were going to be realistic about it, someone who committed the exact same crime 30 times in a row would most likely not just get no sentence, but evade the police and never be found at all.

Who said I was screaming? I believe that my comment was rather civil.

pretty sure influencing concord's location by boarding noobships/shuttles etc has been done for a long time before this.

like pretty much every standard suicide gank where the gankers will undock in noob ships to pull concord away from the gate they just ganked on, so they can resume ganking on that gate as soon as their gcc ends.

it isn't setting a precedent, it's following one.

and concord hasn't been avoided, every time a ship has been boarded, it has been destroyed.

It has been legal since the dawn of CONCORD. No precedent is being set here.

No. None of those things actually happen. They are not avoiding CONCORD — temporary or otherwise — and not avoiding CONCORD has never been considered an exploit.

“Avoiding CONCORD” means exactly one thing: having a C-flag while being in a ship, and then not having that ship destroyed (by CONCORD or otherwise). Since every last one of the ganker's ships are distroyed, nothing is being avoided. The only “temporary” thing going on here is the CONCORD spawn timer, which is intentional — CONCORD is not an insta-kill; never have been; and never will be, because that would make no sense. The delay between getting flagged and getting blown up is the entire point of having security levels 0.45–1.0. It is there specifically to allow suicide ganks to happen and to make them easier the lower the sec level.

As such, preventing this would be a very odd decision to make, since that would completely alter all of highsec for no apparent reason.

If we're being realistic about it, the cop's response time is thirty minutes, not thirty seconds.

and then they tell you that there's not much they can do about it because apparently a man in his mid 20s wearing dark jeans and a hoodie isn't a unique enough description.

Jus make CONCORD pod criminals and put them effectively under 15 minutes house arrest in their home station because they'd get podded again as soon as they'd undock.

There. Everything solved.