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Kane Ceres
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2015-01-29 21:01:48 UTC
Futt Isimazu wrote:
I want bumpers to pay for hiding in NPC corps.


I think NPC corps should reduce your speed by 50%. That'll teach them.


Talks about people in NPC corps to avoid war decs... while in an NPC corp.


Op just combined trolling and inception.. I give you trollception..

patent pending.
Futt Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#42 - 2015-01-29 21:07:45 UTC
Kane Ceres wrote:
Futt Isimazu wrote:
I want bumpers to pay for hiding in NPC corps.


I think NPC corps should reduce your speed by 50%. That'll teach them.


Talks about people in NPC corps to avoid war decs... while in an NPC corp.


Op just combined trolling and inception.. I give you trollception..

patent pending.



im just a forum alt bcuz if i post in my main then all the gankers here will come wardec and gank me
Kane Ceres
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#43 - 2015-01-29 21:10:31 UTC
Futt Isimazu wrote:
Kane Ceres wrote:
Futt Isimazu wrote:
I want bumpers to pay for hiding in NPC corps.


I think NPC corps should reduce your speed by 50%. That'll teach them.


Talks about people in NPC corps to avoid war decs... while in an NPC corp.


Op just combined trolling and inception.. I give you trollception..

patent pending.



im just a forum TROLL bcuz if i post in my main then all the gankers here will come wardec and gank me



FTFY
Futt Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#44 - 2015-01-29 21:23:25 UTC
Kane Ceres wrote:
Futt Isimazu wrote:
Kane Ceres wrote:
Futt Isimazu wrote:
I want bumpers to pay for hiding in NPC corps.


I think NPC corps should reduce your speed by 50%. That'll teach them.


Talks about people in NPC corps to avoid war decs... while in an NPC corp.


Op just combined trolling and inception.. I give you trollception..

patent pending.



im just a forum TROLL bcuz if i post in my main then all the gankers here will come wardec and gank me



FTFY



I'm not a troll, this bumping crap is a serious problem!!

gankers always whine about miners going to NPC corps but use them themselves and im sick of it!
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#45 - 2015-01-29 21:32:13 UTC
Not everyone in an NPC corp is a bumper. Applying a penalty to all characters in NPC corps to "deal" with the "problem" of bumping makes as much sense as dispensing feminine sanitation products to men.

Yes, I went there.


Okay, so you want to only target bumpers? Great. But there's still a huge problem: where do you draw the line between bumping into a ship by accident, especially at a crowded station undock, and deliberately bumping a ship in order to impact it in some negative way?

Two bumps? Three bumps?

Bumping it going fast enough?

Bumping it by hitting approach?


How do you tell the difference between someone bumping a freighter to keep it from warping, and someone bumping into a friendly Orca that they're approaching to get into range to offload minerals? It's like art: you know it when you see it. Unfortunately, the server isn't an art connoisseur and it needs a very clearly constructed set of rules to define aggressive bumping before it can impart any consequences.


"Bumping" is incredibly subjective. Until someone can come up with a 100% accurate, objective way to differentiate between deliberate bumping with the intent to cause harm and accidental bumping, there really isn't anything CCP can do to punish bumpers outside of reporting persistent bumpers for harassment. I'd wager that the subjectiveness of bumping is a large part of why they allow it. It's not like Crimewatch where there are very fixed and clear criteria for triggering responses.

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#46 - 2015-01-29 21:35:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Futt Isimazu wrote:
I'm not a troll, this bumping crap is a serious problem!!
So serious that CCP have said it's OK?

CCP, why so serious?

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Paranoid Loyd
#47 - 2015-01-29 21:39:50 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
makes as much sense as dispensing feminine sanitation products to men.
Well, they are quite absorbent, they will probably work well for tears

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#48 - 2015-01-29 21:57:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
makes as much sense as dispensing feminine sanitation products to men.
Well, they are quite absorbent, they will probably work well for tears
Oh man that's funny. The things we get our kids to do, or they do themselves.

"No Simon, it's a mask to cover your eyes at night."Lol

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Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2015-01-30 00:23:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Dradis Aulmais
Mag's wrote:
Futt Isimazu wrote:
I'm not a troll, this bumping crap is a serious problem!!
So serious that CCP have said it's OK?

CCP, why so serious?



Fixed that for ya

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2015-01-30 06:07:04 UTC
Kane Ceres wrote:
Futt Isimazu wrote:
I want bumpers to pay for hiding in NPC corps.


I think NPC corps should reduce your speed by 50%. That'll teach them.


Talks about people in NPC corps to avoid war decs... while in an NPC corp.


Op just combined trolling and inception.. I give you trollception..

patent pending.

I'm pretty sure that was copyrighted a few years back.

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2015-01-30 06:08:31 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Not everyone in an NPC corp is a bumper. Applying a penalty to all characters in NPC corps to "deal" with the "problem" of bumping makes as much sense as dispensing feminine sanitation products to men.

Yes, I went there.


Okay, so you want to only target bumpers? Great. But there's still a huge problem: where do you draw the line between bumping into a ship by accident, especially at a crowded station undock, and deliberately bumping a ship in order to impact it in some negative way?

Two bumps? Three bumps?

Bumping it going fast enough?

Bumping it by hitting approach?


How do you tell the difference between someone bumping a freighter to keep it from warping, and someone bumping into a friendly Orca that they're approaching to get into range to offload minerals? It's like art: you know it when you see it. Unfortunately, the server isn't an art connoisseur and it needs a very clearly constructed set of rules to define aggressive bumping before it can impart any consequences.


"Bumping" is incredibly subjective. Until someone can come up with a 100% accurate, objective way to differentiate between deliberate bumping with the intent to cause harm and accidental bumping, there really isn't anything CCP can do to punish bumpers outside of reporting persistent bumpers for harassment. I'd wager that the subjectiveness of bumping is a large part of why they allow it. It's not like Crimewatch where there are very fixed and clear criteria for triggering responses.

Bronson! Stop taking the thread seriously! The universe is already on edge from that one time that Veers said something intelligent, you might rip it apart!

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