Ships & Modules

I've found numerous fits for missile boats to run 4/10s, but haven't been able to find any for Amarr Laser cruisers. What would one look like, I understand resists, but what about the other mods?

A Stratios.

Yeah, it's primarily drones but also using lasers

However for pure lasers this is the best I can come up with:

Zealot

[Zealot, PvE]
Damage Control II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Corpii A-Type EM Plating
Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink

10MN Afterburner II
Large Capacitor Battery II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II

Legion...... coming soon

[Legion, PvE - Lasers]
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Medium Armor Repairer
Imperial Navy Armor Thermic Hardener
Energized EM Membrane II
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink
Imperial Navy Heat Sink

10MN Afterburner II
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
'Thurifer' Large Capacitor Battery I

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump II

Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Offensive - Liquid Crystal Magnifiers
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst



as good as the Zealot but with a better tank and a probe launcher

T3 can't enter 4/10

Here is what I have used in Sansha and Blood Raider DED's:

[Omen Navy Issue, DED 4]
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Reactive Armor Hardener
Corpum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer (Deadspace repairers are cheapish and well worth the investment)
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II (Drop this for a DC II if you're needing more tank or a another Heat Sink II if more DPS)

Large Capacitor Battery II
Cap Recharger II
10MN Afterburner II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Salvager I (Offline this until you need it to save on CPU)

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I

Acolyte II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

Some delicious stats...

You can fit all this with just a power-grid implant or drop a Nano Pump and add a Ancillary Current Router if you don't want to rip out an expensive implant just to make this fit. The Sansha sites are alot easier to finish than the BR because of the nueting (part of the reason I went for cap longevity compared to recharge) however both can be done if you keep you transversal up and speed tank a lot of the incoming DPS with your high base speed and small sig, things the Zealot lack. Don't get me wrong, Zealot is a great ship just not in this capacity. Navy Omen is just better than it in the areas that count the most when it comes to running and completing DED sites in a respectable time frame. ONI has better cap amount, speed, signature radius, a drone bay (which is crucial when you're dealing with scramming frigs), agility, armor buffer and cap recharge.

Here are the stats side by side for comparison:

Omen Navy Issue vs Zealot

Zealot is an awesome armor HAC fleet ship but ONI has it beat hands down when it comes to running DED's. What beats both of these ships tho is a Stratios, that thing is absolute beast...with a cloak.

Don't use reactive hardeners, especially not on a cruiser, and don't use semi conductor rigs.

I'll go ahead and endorse the ONI too. But what's wrong with SMCs on (some) cruisers? If you're not going for cap stability you usually get better performance there than witih CCCs.

em / thermal what? be specific! The Phantasm does em / thermal damage, hence lazors.

Shooting sanshas and blood raiders in a sansha ship would make perfect sense, I do it all the time

Edit:

By the way the Phantasm runs the Blood Raider Monastary (DED 4/10) just fine with heavy beam lasers II.

SMC increases total cap and thus indirectly recharge, but for a lower amount than CCC affect recharge for the same reason that rof bonuses are more potent than damage bonuses. So CCC gives a higher recharge than SMC and generally that's what you want to have in a prolonged scenario.

However, people tend to just look at cap stability numbers in the fitting window and there SMC give better cap depletion times due to increased total cap but that still doesn't make up for the fact that actual recharge is lower.

Why the hell do you need to use all those faction / deadspace mods for low sec exploration ?!?