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Cost of Jump Freighterrs

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Orny
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#1 - 2015-01-29 20:06:29 UTC
Is anyone able to tell me how CCP can justify the cost of a Jump Freighter - around 7 Bill ISK. I would pay about 2 bill for one but 7 bill is daylight robbery
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2015-01-29 20:07:49 UTC
CCP doesnt make the price.
Eldwinn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-01-29 20:07:52 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#4 - 2015-01-29 20:14:04 UTC
Orny wrote:
Is anyone able to tell me how CCP can justify the cost of a Jump Freighter - around 7 Bill ISK. I would pay about 2 bill for one but 7 bill is daylight robbery


CCP doesn't have to justify anything. This isn't WoW; there's no NPC-controlled market where prices are regulated artificially. The market here is driven by players and they are the ones who set the price.

If you're curious about why a JF costs the amount it does, perhaps you should spend less time whining about it and more time investigating what actually goes into building one. There are moon minerals to mine and move, regular minerals to mine and move, there are stacks and stacks of BPCs that must be created from nefariously expensive researched BPOs, there are all kinds of components that must be created to use as building materials for the final ship and there is of course the invention process on the actual ship BPC itself.

I won't go further into detail, but I will re-iterate again that perhaps your time would be best spent investigating time and material costs for the construction - sub-assembly included - of this Jump Freighter you want to buy. Maybe afterward you can come back here and explain to all of us how it can be done for under two billion ISK without being hilariously unprofitable.
Arden Elenduil
Unlimited Bear Works
#5 - 2015-01-29 20:16:43 UTC
The sense of entitlement of some people knows no bounds...
Just terrible
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2015-01-29 20:38:39 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Decoy
*snip* ~ ISD Decoy

As mentioned above, CCP doesn't make out the price, the players does.
Every single item in EVE got the price because of the players.
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#7 - 2015-01-29 20:45:51 UTC
Orny wrote:
Is anyone able to tell me how CCP can justify the cost of a Jump Freighter - around 7 Bill ISK. I would pay about 2 bill for one but 7 bill is daylight robbery

Apparently there are folks who are more than willing to pay 7bil for them.

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Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-01-29 20:48:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Dradis Aulmais
did I miss the mockery?

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Anhenka
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-01-29 22:07:28 UTC
Bought one for 7 bil yesterday. Unless I get it popped, it's probably going to be my best investment ever.

I have nearly 5 Bil in stuff headed to a barren nullsec market that will quite easily sell at a 25% markup. Buy, stock, rinse, repeat.
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2015-01-29 22:10:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Nariya Kentaya
what the hell do you want to use it for?

A JF is a corp/alliance level asset, meant to be moving valuable materials quickly past dangerous territory or choke points via an allied cyno, in order to stock/supply station/POS's in your home. As such, the bill SHOULD be footed by your corp/alliance if they are in serious need of a JF, also in which case, theyd be in null, and 7 billion would be a weekend whelp fleet in price.
Paranoid Loyd
#11 - 2015-01-29 22:26:25 UTC
Would you like me to link a supply and demand graph for you?

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#12 - 2015-01-29 22:40:40 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
This got to be one of the stupidist things I've ever seen posted...
As mentioned above, CCP doesn't make out the price, the players does.
Every single item in EVE got the price because of the players.



well almost every thing local BPOs/skill books but yeah what this guy said

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The 16.8km Bubble
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#13 - 2015-01-30 01:18:35 UTC
train to make jf's

score bp's to invent the hull and make the components.

win.


Before you buy however...look up the pricing of mats to know your actual build costs. To see if worthwhile.


As you buy you will notice damn this a lot of isk. Why you pay a lot. Unlike a say rifter bp where in bulks sale alone you cover the bp costs at isks per sale, jf selles won't sell these in the 1000's anytime soon...that huge start up cost is chipped away on markup to the smaller sales numbers they will get. Among other factors ofc.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#14 - 2015-01-30 01:22:40 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Would you like me to link a supply and demand graph for you?


Never not post graphs.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#15 - 2015-01-30 03:45:12 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Decoy
*snip* ~ Quoting a deleted post. ~ ISD Decoy

Not saying you are wrong but I would like to read your justifications for this statement.

To the OP get used to it as they say players set the price not CCP.
Aerie Evingod
Midwest Miners LLC
#16 - 2015-01-30 04:55:26 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Decoy
*snip* ~ Quoting a deleted post. ~ ISD Decoy

They set the bill of materials.
Cymion
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2015-01-30 05:20:09 UTC
Protip: The Economy in eve is entirely player driven.

CCP does not do anything more than seed training books and select BPO/BPC if I'm not mistaken

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2015-01-30 07:35:35 UTC
Orny wrote:
Is anyone able to tell me how CCP can justify the cost of a Jump Freighter - around 7 Bill ISK. I would pay about 2 bill for one but 7 bill is daylight robbery


Yeah actually CCP don´t get involed in prices. Or should not be thats what the sandbox part in this game is about. You don´t like the price don´t buy it.

-1 for the bad idea
-10 for trying to destry the sandbox
-1 for a thread without a idea
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#19 - 2015-01-30 08:36:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Samillian
Orny wrote:
Is anyone able to tell me how CCP can justify the cost of a Jump Freighter - around 7 Bill ISK. I would pay about 2 bill for one but 7 bill is daylight robbery


Since not only are JF's not magically spawned out of thin air by CCP but are player built and cost considerably more than 2bil a piece to build (even if you don't factor in the initial investment in BPO's, research, facilities and material transport) your supposition that the price is "daylight robbery" is based on a very poor foundation.

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Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#20 - 2015-01-30 09:31:31 UTC
If you don't believe people about the investment cost, no one is stopping you from putting up a buy order for a JF at 2 billion. Now, someone might accidentally sell it to you, but unless that is the case, you are asking people to sacrifice their time and effort so you don't have to. Socialist Spaceships Online this is not.

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