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Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2015-01-29 20:19:48 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
CompleteFailure wrote:
Or, before you waste time doing something that might not be necessary, look up the stop code that is displayed on the BSOD and see what actually caused the crash. Find a solution to the actual problem instead of just guessing and using trial and error to find a fix.

http://i.imgur.com/9nkjR6o.png


Only 11 posts for the proper procedure. That has to be some kind of GD record.

Mr Epeen Cool



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Dudley Schwartz
Magic Hamsters
Miners Inn University
#22 - 2015-01-29 20:21:58 UTC
Valdana Arlehata wrote:
Greetings.

Need help in why my PC goes to the blue screen of death while in game.

Is there any idea's i can try to keep it from happening?

I already dropped the graphics to "performance" level. But if it game related wouldn't the game shut down not my PC?

Thanks to those that reply.



The same thing has been happening to me since the last Eve update, BSOD all the time when running Eve. To Solve this, i cleaned my registry by using ccleaner (google search it), and cleared my Eve settings and cache.

Hope this helps

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2015-01-29 20:22:33 UTC
Lena Lazair wrote:
Orlacc wrote:
Sounds like overheating. Open the case up and blow it out with canned air. Make sure to clean all fans especially any on the vid card.


This is the most correct answer posted so far :) OP, start there.

Also consider grabbing a utility like GPU-Z to watch the temp sensors on your video card.

Honestly, with todays technology, they should teach entrance-CIT courses for hardware and software in middle or highschool on a mandatory basis
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#24 - 2015-01-29 20:54:04 UTC
Unfortunatly there is not quite enough info to figure out whats wrong. As stated though, the possibilities include:

Virus infection choking out ram
video card driver crashing
bad stick of ram
bad sector on hard drive
bad hard drive
bad motherboard
bad video card
bad power supply
corrupted file
over heat
broken fans
grimlins

easy steps:

1) check all your fans, make sure thy are working when the pc is on

2) blow the dust from all the fans (this is less likly to cause a BSOD, usually overheat just shuts off)

3) update your video card drvier

4) run chkdsk and see if your hdd has bad sectors

5) search for memtest86 and run that to test memory

6) if you have a spare video card swap your current one for that and see if that helps

7) when yoru screen bsods get a picture of the bsod, will make id'ing the exact issue easier.

8) drop kick pc

past that it gets complicated. Your first thing you need to do is identify your stop error. That will lead you to your next course. I recommend running memtest as that is the quickest and easiest to eliminate as an issue.

Good luck.

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#25 - 2015-01-29 20:57:07 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Lena Lazair wrote:
Orlacc wrote:
Sounds like overheating. Open the case up and blow it out with canned air. Make sure to clean all fans especially any on the vid card.


This is the most correct answer posted so far :) OP, start there.

Also consider grabbing a utility like GPU-Z to watch the temp sensors on your video card.

Honestly, with todays technology, they should teach entrance-CIT courses for hardware and software in middle or highschool on a mandatory basis


this. in California when i was a freshmen (in 95) we had to take a basic computer and finance class. How to write papers, basic spreadsheets, and how to balance a check book. It would be a simple thing to do very basic pc diags and repairs, hell they could even do it as an elective to high schools can come out with basic knowledge to help get jobs. But meh

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Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2015-01-29 21:10:49 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
Lena Lazair wrote:
Orlacc wrote:
Sounds like overheating. Open the case up and blow it out with canned air. Make sure to clean all fans especially any on the vid card.


This is the most correct answer posted so far :) OP, start there.

Also consider grabbing a utility like GPU-Z to watch the temp sensors on your video card.

Honestly, with todays technology, they should teach entrance-CIT courses for hardware and software in middle or highschool on a mandatory basis


this. in California when i was a freshmen (in 95) we had to take a basic computer and finance class. How to write papers, basic spreadsheets, and how to balance a check book. It would be a simple thing to do very basic pc diags and repairs, hell they could even do it as an elective to high schools can come out with basic knowledge to help get jobs. But meh


Put together a draft course program. Copyright it. PC Repair Diagnostics 101
Go to a local school in low socio-economic area
Offer to teach the course as an extra circular activity after class using the school's computer suites
Bed the draft program in while figuring out which senior management staff in the school are keen to try new things and really want to help the kids
Modify program to meet your state's curriculum requirements
Utilise skills of local school senior management to facilitate smooth path for your program to become a certified class course.
Train your own staff to implement course across different schools
Collect funds from your state's education department
Buy yacht
Get drunk in the Bahamas for months on end while being praised for giving technical skills to disadvantaged inner city kids.
Dudley Schwartz
Magic Hamsters
Miners Inn University
#27 - 2015-01-29 21:30:39 UTC
Dudley Schwartz wrote:
Valdana Arlehata wrote:
Greetings.

Need help in why my PC goes to the blue screen of death while in game.

Is there any idea's i can try to keep it from happening?

I already dropped the graphics to "performance" level. But if it game related wouldn't the game shut down not my PC?

Thanks to those that reply.



The same thing has been happening to me since the last Eve update, BSOD all the time when running Eve. To Solve this, i cleaned my registry by using ccleaner (google search it), and cleared my Eve settings and cache.

Hope this helps


Also i got a reply to a petition from CCP stating i had been receiving some corrupt files.

Jita 4/4, the heart and soul of New Eden.

CompleteFailure
DAWGS Corp.
Negative Feedback
#28 - 2015-01-29 22:00:04 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
Unfortunatly there is not quite enough info to figure out whats wrong. As stated though, the possibilities include:

Virus infection choking out ram
video card driver crashing
bad stick of ram
bad sector on hard drive
bad hard drive
bad motherboard
bad video card
bad power supply
corrupted file
over heat
broken fans
grimlins

easy steps:

1) check all your fans, make sure thy are working when the pc is on

2) blow the dust from all the fans (this is less likly to cause a BSOD, usually overheat just shuts off)

3) update your video card drvier

4) run chkdsk and see if your hdd has bad sectors

5) search for memtest86 and run that to test memory

6) if you have a spare video card swap your current one for that and see if that helps

7) when yoru screen bsods get a picture of the bsod, will make id'ing the exact issue easier.

8) drop kick pc

past that it gets complicated. Your first thing you need to do is identify your stop error. That will lead you to your next course. I recommend running memtest as that is the quickest and easiest to eliminate as an issue.

Good luck.


Why would you go through the trouble of doing #1-6 before doing #7? That's a lot of time and effort spent doing things that may not have anything to do with the actual cause of the crashes.
voetius
Grundrisse
#29 - 2015-01-29 22:10:22 UTC
Orlacc wrote:
Sounds like overheating. Open the case up and blow it out with canned air. Make sure to clean all fans especially any on the vid card.


happened to me once, I moved a pc and the cpu heatsink came loose, blue screen a few minutes after startup.
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#30 - 2015-01-30 00:12:55 UTC
Just on the off chance that it's something really obvious: Go to the graphics settings and set interval to one.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#31 - 2015-01-30 00:23:31 UTC
CompleteFailure wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
Unfortunatly there is not quite enough info to figure out whats wrong. As stated though, the possibilities include:

Virus infection choking out ram
video card driver crashing
bad stick of ram
bad sector on hard drive
bad hard drive
bad motherboard
bad video card
bad power supply
corrupted file
over heat
broken fans
grimlins

easy steps:

1) check all your fans, make sure thy are working when the pc is on

2) blow the dust from all the fans (this is less likly to cause a BSOD, usually overheat just shuts off)

3) update your video card drvier

4) run chkdsk and see if your hdd has bad sectors

5) search for memtest86 and run that to test memory

6) if you have a spare video card swap your current one for that and see if that helps

7) when yoru screen bsods get a picture of the bsod, will make id'ing the exact issue easier.

8) drop kick pc

past that it gets complicated. Your first thing you need to do is identify your stop error. That will lead you to your next course. I recommend running memtest as that is the quickest and easiest to eliminate as an issue.

Good luck.


Why would you go through the trouble of doing #1-6 before doing #7? That's a lot of time and effort spent doing things that may not have anything to do with the actual cause of the crashes.



i should of specified it was in no order, just random helpful stuff off the top of my head.

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Serene Repose
#32 - 2015-01-30 00:59:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Serene Repose
The Protato wrote:
You need a PC that doesn't require a hand-crank to start up
90% of the "problems" people have with "EVE" would be solved by taking this one, simple step. TYVM. Have a nice day.
Lol

You shouldn't have "should of" anything as "should of" is a nonsensical pair of words that rarely go together.
"Should have" however seems to fit within the context of your attempt at writing a sentence.
Just sayin' (as they say.) I know. It's too bad of a habit to stop now, so just call me a grammar ****.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Miomeifeng Alduin
Lithonauts Inc.
#33 - 2015-01-30 02:53:48 UTC
Valdana Arlehata wrote:
Greetings.

Need help in why my PC goes to the blue screen of death while in game.

Is there any idea's i can try to keep it from happening?

I already dropped the graphics to "performance" level. But if it game related wouldn't the game shut down not my PC?

Thanks to those that reply.


write down the errorcode and the file it happens in, and look up a possible solution online. BSOD are mostly driver errors (either from corrupted files, or ram).
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#34 - 2015-01-30 04:06:11 UTC
CompleteFailure wrote:
Or, before you waste time doing something that might not be necessary, look up the stop code that is displayed on the BSOD and see what actually caused the crash. Find a solution to the actual problem instead of just guessing and using trial and error to find a fix.

http://i.imgur.com/9nkjR6o.png




That's the answer right there

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Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2015-01-30 06:39:30 UTC
CompleteFailure wrote:
Or, before you waste time doing something that might not be necessary, look up the stop code that is displayed on the BSOD and see what actually caused the crash. Find a solution to the actual problem instead of just guessing and using trial and error to find a fix.

http://i.imgur.com/9nkjR6o.png


Windows doesn't always know what it is doing, especially if it is hardware related.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
The Conference
#36 - 2015-01-30 07:50:04 UTC
Install Gentoo
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#37 - 2015-01-30 09:02:58 UTC
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CompleteFailure
DAWGS Corp.
Negative Feedback
#38 - 2015-01-30 16:04:51 UTC
Kiandoshia wrote:
CompleteFailure wrote:
Or, before you waste time doing something that might not be necessary, look up the stop code that is displayed on the BSOD and see what actually caused the crash. Find a solution to the actual problem instead of just guessing and using trial and error to find a fix.

http://i.imgur.com/9nkjR6o.png


Windows doesn't always know what it is doing, especially if it is hardware related.


How do you mean? Do you have a link to any kind of knowledge base or case study that supports this assessment?
Nalia White
Tencus
#39 - 2015-01-30 17:43:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Nalia White
Mr Epeen wrote:
CompleteFailure wrote:
Or, before you waste time doing something that might not be necessary, look up the stop code that is displayed on the BSOD and see what actually caused the crash. Find a solution to the actual problem instead of just guessing and using trial and error to find a fix.

http://i.imgur.com/9nkjR6o.png


Only 11 posts for the proper procedure. That has to be some kind of GD record.

Mr Epeen Cool


wrong, open up case and cleaning first is the proper step with these symptoms... it has to do with experience and looking for the 90% case first...

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CompleteFailure
DAWGS Corp.
Negative Feedback
#40 - 2015-01-30 19:14:10 UTC
Nalia White wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
CompleteFailure wrote:
Or, before you waste time doing something that might not be necessary, look up the stop code that is displayed on the BSOD and see what actually caused the crash. Find a solution to the actual problem instead of just guessing and using trial and error to find a fix.

http://i.imgur.com/9nkjR6o.png


Only 11 posts for the proper procedure. That has to be some kind of GD record.

Mr Epeen Cool


wrong, open up case and cleaning first is the proper step with these symptoms... it has to do with experience and looking for the 90% case first...


I won't deny that cleaning out your PC should be done (TBH, regularly), but from a troubleshooting standpoint looking up the error code should be the first step. Also speaking from experience, both personally and professionally, I can't tell you how many hours I've wasted doing all of those things before finding the real cause. Truth is, it could be any number of things, and you're better off spending your time properly diagnosing the problem by starting with error codes and logs than you are throwing things at the wall to see what sticks.
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