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Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#81 - 2015-01-29 04:26:35 UTC
Solonius Rex wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Solonius Rex wrote:


You still havent answered my question. How did they lose to "you"? Did they try to gank you repeatedly, and fail every time? I dont see any code kills on your killboard.

Furthermore, has code never successfully killed an incursion ship? Whats the isk loss to isk killed ratio? Cause even one incursion ship can be worth 2-3 billion easily.


They tried to gank incursions ships...failed...and gave up. Victory in Eve isn't about KB's...it's about accomplishing your objectives. I did, and code did not...that is a victory for Veers.


By that logic, ive never been killed by Black Legion before, therefore ive won against them! Wow, that was easy. I won against so many people in Eve.

Also, looking at their killboards, it looks like they killed a couple incursion ships. So i dont see how they "Failed" at doing this.


They announced a public campaign to force incursion runners to buy permits or face mass ganking. They failed miserably in executing their threats. No matter how many talking points you spew, it is obvious to everyone that incursion runners won and code lost.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#82 - 2015-01-29 05:22:06 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Solonius Rex wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Solonius Rex wrote:


You still havent answered my question. How did they lose to "you"? Did they try to gank you repeatedly, and fail every time? I dont see any code kills on your killboard.

Furthermore, has code never successfully killed an incursion ship? Whats the isk loss to isk killed ratio? Cause even one incursion ship can be worth 2-3 billion easily.


They tried to gank incursions ships...failed...and gave up. Victory in Eve isn't about KB's...it's about accomplishing your objectives. I did, and code did not...that is a victory for Veers.


By that logic, ive never been killed by Black Legion before, therefore ive won against them! Wow, that was easy. I won against so many people in Eve.

Also, looking at their killboards, it looks like they killed a couple incursion ships. So i dont see how they "Failed" at doing this.


They announced a public campaign to force incursion runners to buy permits or face mass ganking. They failed miserably in executing their threats. No matter how many talking points you spew, it is obvious to everyone that incursion runners won and code lost.


You don't get it. Winning and losing is not defined by accomplishment of the objective (in this case). How does that make sense?

The goal is content. Anything to do. Something to work for. A positive outcome is desired, but as long as the activity was fun, the mission was a success.

That is why "they always win".

When you decide your own goals, someone else telling you that you failed is simply not relevant.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#83 - 2015-01-29 05:39:56 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:


You don't get it. Winning and losing is not defined by accomplishment of the objective (in this case). How does that make sense?

The goal is content. Anything to do. Something to work for. A positive outcome is desired, but as long as the activity was fun, the mission was a success.

That is why "they always win".

When you decide your own goals, someone else telling you that you failed is simply not relevant.


I fear it is you who is the confused one here. CODE is not trying to "create content." They are not here just to do something. They have specific objectives, mainly forcing PvE players to buy permits or abandon highsec. When they fail to accomplish that, they lose, and they don't have fun. Best example - after 3 fail incursions ganks in a row their fleet disbanded...why? Because it sucks to fail. No one enjoys losing....and therefore unless they are impeding incursion runners, they aren't having fun.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#84 - 2015-01-29 05:55:06 UTC
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Don't worry friends. We already sent in New Order Agent Veers Boulevard to take care of his blasphemous thread, which will be locked in no-time.


Do you ever plan to stop (falsely) accusing me of being a secret code alt? I have no affiliation with your pathetic group, and think the game would be better off without the lot of you.
Considering your terrible posting drives people to join the New Order or associated belligerent undesirables I'd say that you are in fact a CODE. agent, and probably one of their best recruiters to boot.





If Veers didn't exist, we'd have to create him.

Thank you Veers, for the comedy and the people you help drive into our arms.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Dar'Nalaa
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#85 - 2015-01-29 06:56:20 UTC
Is it possible to close a post, being very new to forums not sure what control one has, if people want to chat there is make a new post button, this post seems to have done it's job
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#86 - 2015-01-29 07:02:38 UTC
I don't think everyone is quite done poking fun at Code. Agent Provocateur Veers Belvar yet. They'll finish soon.
Though to answer your question I believe you can have the ISD's lock the thread for you.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#87 - 2015-01-29 07:41:36 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Don't worry friends. We already sent in New Order Agent Veers Boulevard to take care of his blasphemous thread, which will be locked in no-time.


Do you ever plan to stop (falsely) accusing me of being a secret code alt? I have no affiliation with your pathetic group, and think the game would be better off without the lot of you.
Considering your terrible posting drives people to join the New Order or associated belligerent undesirables I'd say that you are in fact a CODE. agent, and probably one of their best recruiters to boot.




People join code because they enjoy causing pain to other players and trying to make the game miserable for them. My brilliant posting has naught to do with it.

If you let me join your corp and make me a director I will create you a special medal for your excellent help with our recruitment efforts.

Evil RatKid
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#88 - 2015-01-29 07:52:25 UTC
Omar Alharazaad wrote:
I don't think everyone is quite done poking fun at Code. Agent Provocateur Veers Belvar yet. They'll finish soon.
Though to answer your question I believe you can have the ISD's lock the thread for you.


Yes, the thread OP is always allowed to request a lock and it will be done.

Also OP - keep bringing the fights and refining your tactics. Prove the 'OMG ganking is unstoppable!!! nerf it nau plz!!!' people wrong.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#89 - 2015-01-29 13:13:11 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:


You don't get it. Winning and losing is not defined by accomplishment of the objective (in this case). How does that make sense?

The goal is content. Anything to do. Something to work for. A positive outcome is desired, but as long as the activity was fun, the mission was a success.

That is why "they always win".

When you decide your own goals, someone else telling you that you failed is simply not relevant.


I fear it is you who is the confused one here. CODE is not trying to "create content." They are not here just to do something. They have specific objectives, mainly forcing PvE players to buy permits or abandon highsec. When they fail to accomplish that, they lose, and they don't have fun. Best example - after 3 fail incursions ganks in a row their fleet disbanded...why? Because it sucks to fail. No one enjoys losing....and therefore unless they are impeding incursion runners, they aren't having fun.


Lol.

You would disagree with whatever I said no matter if you agreed with it or not, because you are trolling.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#90 - 2015-01-29 15:46:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Solonius Rex
Veers Belvar wrote:
Solonius Rex wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Solonius Rex wrote:


You still havent answered my question. How did they lose to "you"? Did they try to gank you repeatedly, and fail every time? I dont see any code kills on your killboard.

Furthermore, has code never successfully killed an incursion ship? Whats the isk loss to isk killed ratio? Cause even one incursion ship can be worth 2-3 billion easily.


They tried to gank incursions ships...failed...and gave up. Victory in Eve isn't about KB's...it's about accomplishing your objectives. I did, and code did not...that is a victory for Veers.


By that logic, ive never been killed by Black Legion before, therefore ive won against them! Wow, that was easy. I won against so many people in Eve.

Also, looking at their killboards, it looks like they killed a couple incursion ships. So i dont see how they "Failed" at doing this.


They announced a public campaign to force incursion runners to buy permits or face mass ganking. They failed miserably in executing their threats. No matter how many talking points you spew, it is obvious to everyone that incursion runners won and code lost.


And... What, you think that every single character that owns and flies a freighter has been ganked?

Surely you agree that there are hundreds of people who own freighters, use them, and have never been ganked by code, do you not?

And yet, there are incursion runners that have been ganked by code.

So, how did they lose to you, anymore than a freighter pilot that has never lost his freighter to code, has won against the code?

Or are you honestly going to stand there and claim that Code has lost and has never won against the freighter ganking and mining community too?
Solonius Rex
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#91 - 2015-01-29 15:53:21 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:


You don't get it. Winning and losing is not defined by accomplishment of the objective (in this case). How does that make sense?

The goal is content. Anything to do. Something to work for. A positive outcome is desired, but as long as the activity was fun, the mission was a success.

That is why "they always win".

When you decide your own goals, someone else telling you that you failed is simply not relevant.


I fear it is you who is the confused one here. CODE is not trying to "create content." They are not here just to do something. They have specific objectives, mainly forcing PvE players to buy permits or abandon highsec. When they fail to accomplish that, they lose, and they don't have fun. Best example - after 3 fail incursions ganks in a row their fleet disbanded...why? Because it sucks to fail. No one enjoys losing....and therefore unless they are impeding incursion runners, they aren't having fun.


I dont get it.

You seriously think that Codes main objective is for people to buy permits? Seriously? When we have examples of Code ganking people with permits? When we understand that the 10 million isk permit was originally introduced so that James 315 wouldnt get banned for harassment for his bumping, and that his bumping of mining ships would constitute as in-game blackmail/protection racket, making it legal in eve?

And furthermore, are you kidding me? Do you seriously think that 3 failed ganks is anything to code? Do you know how many failed ganks they have had while killing freighters? Do you know how many successful ganks they had against incursion runners? Do you not know of how lucrative, and literally multi-billion-isk of potential that even ONE incursion gank has?

Seriously?
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#92 - 2015-01-29 15:53:38 UTC
Dar'Nalaa wrote:
Is it possible to close a post, being very new to forums not sure what control one has, if people want to chat there is make a new post button, this post seems to have done it's job

Yep! Just file a report on your OP and we will close it for you. Like now.

Thread closed.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department