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Kaelynne Rose
WTB Somalians
#1 - 2015-01-29 01:56:35 UTC
I dont see no thread on Social Corps that are coming soon. Gonnna be like an offical "friends list" where errybody can chat and share catpics and talk about ratting and mining and the weather, but not be in real corp so there is no fear of theft/grief.

Basically like a chat channel but with social media-esqe features.

Youra thoughts on this?

Mine are LMAO at this themepark careabear garbage. Brb lemme tweet that to my fellow Social Corpie Buddies.

Anyone wanna join my socual corp? Gonna be called...EVE IS NOT HARSH, IS IS FOR PANSYS
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2 - 2015-01-29 01:58:30 UTC
You lost me at "I don't see no thread...".

what?

and, whatever it is, wouldn't this be a thread about that?
Orlacc
#3 - 2015-01-29 02:08:31 UTC
Apparently there are talks to create un-war deccable corps in hi sec.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#4 - 2015-01-29 02:14:02 UTC
I get all the social interaction I care for in my one-man corp, thank you very much.

Mr Epeen Cool
Mag's
Azn Empire
#5 - 2015-01-29 02:16:33 UTC
Not much info on it at the moment.

I'm sure some will see this as a slippery slope scenario and they may have a point. Wouldn't it be best to fix the whole war decing mechanic first?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Shailagh
6Six6Six6Six
#6 - 2015-01-29 02:19:33 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
I get all the social interaction I care for in my one-man corp, thank you very much.

Mr Epeen Cool



Mister Peen, im trying to save yo sub and toon. Ccp has FACTS that people in npc and 1man corps quit eve sooooo much more than people in big social corps. Also someone could GriefDec you right now! And if you so decide to let someone in eventually... they could steal errything you got and even blow you mister peen!!

Lets just be EveGate/Social Corpie FriendLists to save each other and protect our isk and ships and hearts and minds
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#7 - 2015-01-29 02:37:09 UTC
I don't really care what they do, but if they give these "social corps" even one practical corporation feature (no NPC tax, POSes, hangars/divisions, etc), I, and about a dozen of my friends, are out of here.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#8 - 2015-01-29 02:38:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Steve Ronuken
There are two proposals with social groups, which don't majorly overlap.

Corp lite: It's like an npc corp, but with your own name and logo.
For those people who would otherwise stay in NPC corps.

Cross Corp Social Groups: For gatherings of players, like the various NPSI communities, where people want a way to organise, without requiring people to leave their current corporation. So you can have fleet adverts, shared fittings, bulletins and so on, restricted to that group. Also, searchable, to improve discoverability which can be a real problem in Eve. (also handy for groupings within a corporation/alliance, like MinLuv)


tbh, I'm in favor of both. How often have you heard of a group of newbies, being 'griefed out of the game', when all they wanted was a name of their own. I'd like Corp lite to be able to be upgraded to full corporations, but not the opposite.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

Jenshae Chiroptera
#9 - 2015-01-29 02:41:08 UTC
Shailagh wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
I get all the social interaction I care for in my one-man corp, thank you very much.
Mr Epeen Cool
Mister Peen, im trying to save yo sub and toon. Ccp has FACTS that people in npc and 1man corps quit eve sooooo much more than people in big social corps. Also someone could GriefDec you right now! And if you so decide to let someone in eventually... they could steal errything you got and even blow you mister peen!!
Lets just be EveGate/Social Corpie FriendLists to save each other and protect our isk and ships and hearts and minds
Huge corps .... they can be good ... just avoid taking on responsibility. Find the guys that make sense and then follow them around.

Mid sized corps / alliances that have multiple gang fights and don't attract anything larger is probably the sweat spot.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Solops Crendraven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-01-29 02:52:21 UTC
Kaelynne Rose wrote:
I dont see no thread on Social Corps that are coming soon. Gonnna be like an offical "friends list" where errybody can chat and share catpics and talk about ratting and mining and the weather, but not be in real corp so there is no fear of theft/grief.

Basically like a chat channel but with social media-esqe features.

Youra thoughts on this?

Mine are LMAO at this themepark careabear garbage. Brb lemme tweet that to my fellow Social Corpie Buddies.

Anyone wanna join my socual corp? Gonna be called...EVE IS NOT HARSH, IS IS FOR PANSYS

sounds great I hope more of these social corps without the Theft and Grief keep growing as long as I dont have to give up my API Im For it.

Moving To Las Vegas Watch Me Play Poker! enter link description here

Shailagh
6Six6Six6Six
#11 - 2015-01-29 02:52:24 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
There are two proposals with social groups, which don't majorly overlap.

Corp lite: It's like an npc corp, but with your own name and logo.
For those people who would otherwise stay in NPC corps.

Cross Corp Social Groups: For gatherings of players, like the various NPSI communities, where people want a way to organise, without requiring people to leave their current corporation. So you can have fleet adverts, shared fittings, bulletins and so on, restricted to that group. Also, searchable, to improve discoverability which can be a real problem in Eve. (also handy for groupings within a corporation/alliance, like MinLuv)


tbh, I'm in favor of both. How often have you heard of a group of newbies, being 'griefed out of the game', when all they wanted was a name of their own. I'd like Corp lite to be able to be upgraded to full corporations, but not the opposite.


So Nullsec aside... what is the remaining point of corporations as we know them? POSes? Theyre getting totally reworked anyways tho and will prob change to let solo/social/lite corps use them. Seriously whats purpose of corps then will be what???
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#12 - 2015-01-29 03:05:09 UTC
I'd like to see more purpose for Corps in highsec. So it's more than just POS. In part, that would be a 'solution' to dec-dodging. So, if you leave, you lose more than if you stay.

An example of this is the mining stuff I've put a proposal together for, when PC corps can 'claim' sites, possibly with anchored improvements, for the duration of the site. (Static belts offend me. I want some way to 'Prospect')

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#13 - 2015-01-29 03:08:58 UTC
social gorups would work for coalitions as well. Back before i formed an alliance i was part of a group in derelik that was trying to rid it of pirates. it would of been a handy tool, esp if other alliances joined in to that specific role,

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2015-01-29 03:11:54 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
There are two proposals with social groups, which don't majorly overlap.

Corp lite: It's like an npc corp, but with your own name and logo.
For those people who would otherwise stay in NPC corps.

Cross Corp Social Groups: For gatherings of players, like the various NPSI communities, where people want a way to organise, without requiring people to leave their current corporation. So you can have fleet adverts, shared fittings, bulletins and so on, restricted to that group. Also, searchable, to improve discoverability which can be a real problem in Eve. (also handy for groupings within a corporation/alliance, like MinLuv)


tbh, I'm in favor of both. How often have you heard of a group of newbies, being 'griefed out of the game', when all they wanted was a name of their own. I'd like Corp lite to be able to be upgraded to full corporations, but not the opposite.


I can see both of these being useful. "Corp Lite" cannot ever be given anything like the benefits of "Corp full flavor" though (POS, no tax, etc.). That needs to be written in stone.
Shailagh
6Six6Six6Six
#15 - 2015-01-29 03:14:32 UTC
Ned Thomas wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
There are two proposals with social groups, which don't majorly overlap.

Corp lite: It's like an npc corp, but with your own name and logo.
For those people who would otherwise stay in NPC corps.

Cross Corp Social Groups: For gatherings of players, like the various NPSI communities, where people want a way to organise, without requiring people to leave their current corporation. So you can have fleet adverts, shared fittings, bulletins and so on, restricted to that group. Also, searchable, to improve discoverability which can be a real problem in Eve. (also handy for groupings within a corporation/alliance, like MinLuv)


tbh, I'm in favor of both. How often have you heard of a group of newbies, being 'griefed out of the game', when all they wanted was a name of their own. I'd like Corp lite to be able to be upgraded to full corporations, but not the opposite.


I can see both of these being useful. "Corp Lite" cannot ever be given anything like the benefits of "Corp full flavor" though (POS, no tax, etc.). That needs to be written in stone.


Written in stone..... til a few more months go by after it and enough bears STILL whine and ccp changes it.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#16 - 2015-01-29 03:14:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Steve Ronuken wrote:
How often have you heard of a group of newbies, being 'griefed out of the game', when all they wanted was a name of their own.

Not at all, so never.

Lots of whinging and whining in the forum of course about how this is such a common thing. But in game it actually happening? Never that I've seen.

If people are griefing (as per the definition used in Eve), then report them and CCP should ban them. As a CSM, if you are aware of players being griefed out of the game (as per the grief play policy of CCP), then I hope you have reported all these instances and CCP has banned the accounts.

But if all this griefing is just really myth, then we don't need more mechanics to avoid conflict.

undeccable Corps and quasi-Alliances are not needed in this game.
Serene Repose
#17 - 2015-01-29 03:18:46 UTC
"proposed" .... BY whom?

I guess things are suggested. That's us. That gets locked or moved.
Then things are "proposed." That's the CSM, who are as useful as t!ts on a bull.
Things suggested get passing thought and scanty discussion.
Things "proposed" are taken as "what players want" since the CSM...sugges...oops.

The CSM does us no favors. Boycott the elections. Speak up. Let's lose the elite bastiches.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Shailagh
6Six6Six6Six
#18 - 2015-01-29 04:05:29 UTC
Serene Repose wrote:
"proposed" .... BY whom?

I guess things are suggested. That's us. That gets locked or moved.
Then things are "proposed." That's the CSM, who are as useful as t!ts on a bull.
Things suggested get passing thought and scanty discussion.
Things "proposed" are taken as "what players want" since the CSM...sugges...oops.

The CSM does us no favors. Boycott the elections. Speak up. Let's lose the elite bastiches.


Seiously players been begging for wardec fixes for meaningful corps for POS/ROLES/CORP fixes. Ccp asks for "corp little things to fix" end up getting rekt with ton of SUGGESTED fixes, realise theyd be better/easier/CHEAPER to just make WOW GUILDS/FFB FRIEND LIST and remove wardecs/safaris.


I propose Steve gets kicked outta csm for lack of faith in his judgement . Impeach! Recount! Elect Sabiz!
Aleksi Bocharov
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2015-01-29 06:19:22 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Cross Corp Social Groups: For gatherings of players, like the various NPSI communities, where people want a way to organise, without requiring people to leave their current corporation. So you can have fleet adverts, shared fittings, bulletins and so on, restricted to that group. Also, searchable, to improve discoverability which can be a real problem in Eve. (also handy for groupings within a corporation/alliance, like MinLuv)


We already have this. Unless what CCP comes up with is super awesome, nobody will use it, since they're already entrenched in the current systems.
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#20 - 2015-01-29 06:26:13 UTC
Shailagh wrote:
Written in stone..... til a few more months go by after it and enough bears STILL whine and ccp changes it.

This is pretty much guaranteed at this point.

After awoxing is gone, the "community" won't be able to take more than a few months of the strain caused by a significantly-increased rise in reliance on war declarations.

In a few months, CCP will start talking about how "wars prevent new players from joining corporations" (and they'd actually be right, to much greater extent than they are about awoxing), and that will be the end of that.

I wrote some true EVE stories! And no, they're not of the generic "my 0.0 alliance had lots of 0.0 fleets and took a lot of 0.0 space" sort. Check them out here:

https://truestories.eveonline.com/users/2074-destiny-corrupted

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