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ISD Cyberdyne
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ISD Alliance
#61 - 2015-01-27 08:17:11 UTC
Alright guys, this thread has some decent discussion applicable to this sub-forum, but there seems to be some consistent wandering into some talk that violates the forum rules. Please remember the following rules and understand that it is expected that anyone participating on these forums should be polite and respectful to one another and adhere to the rules. Please discontinue violating rules as you continue this and other discussions. Thank you.

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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#62 - 2015-01-27 15:29:24 UTC
Don't worry friends. We already sent in New Order Agent Veers Boulevard to take care of his blasphemous thread, which will be locked in no-time.

Evil RatKid
Shailagh
6Six6Six6Six
#63 - 2015-01-27 15:33:39 UTC
Cuz im Victoryous!! I purposly drove my bowhead through Udema and then went afk. I made 15 code members lose their ships they need to now replace them out of their TRILLION DOLLA WAR CHEST. Hhaha i am leet pvp and made them suicide to gank my blowhead!




Yes, bears this is how stupid you sound. GF
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#64 - 2015-01-27 17:30:54 UTC
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Don't worry friends. We already sent in New Order Agent Veers Boulevard to take care of his blasphemous thread, which will be locked in no-time.


Do you ever plan to stop (falsely) accusing me of being a secret code alt? I have no affiliation with your pathetic group, and think the game would be better off without the lot of you.
Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#65 - 2015-01-27 18:04:48 UTC
Veers Belvar wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Don't worry friends. We already sent in New Order Agent Veers Boulevard to take care of his blasphemous thread, which will be locked in no-time.


Do you ever plan to stop (falsely) accusing me of being a secret code alt? I have no affiliation with your pathetic group, and think the game would be better off without the lot of you.
Considering your terrible posting drives people to join the New Order or associated belligerent undesirables I'd say that you are in fact a CODE. agent, and probably one of their best recruiters to boot.


ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"

NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#66 - 2015-01-27 20:32:02 UTC
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
Ima Wreckyou wrote:
Don't worry friends. We already sent in New Order Agent Veers Boulevard to take care of his blasphemous thread, which will be locked in no-time.


Do you ever plan to stop (falsely) accusing me of being a secret code alt? I have no affiliation with your pathetic group, and think the game would be better off without the lot of you.
Considering your terrible posting drives people to join the New Order or associated belligerent undesirables I'd say that you are in fact a CODE. agent, and probably one of their best recruiters to boot.




People join code because they enjoy causing pain to other players and trying to make the game miserable for them. My brilliant posting has naught to do with it.
Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#67 - 2015-01-27 21:56:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Concord Guy's Cousin
Veers Belvar wrote:
People join code because they enjoy causing pain to other players and trying to make the game miserable for them.
Do you have any actual proof to back up this claim, or are you just following your usual modus operandi and making stuff up?

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My brilliant posting has naught to do with it.
Keep dreaming about the brilliance of your posting Roll

ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"

NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#68 - 2015-01-27 22:13:13 UTC
Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:
People join code because they enjoy causing pain to other players and trying to make the game miserable for them.
Do you have any actual proof to back up this claim, or are you just following your usual modus operandi and making stuff up?

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My brilliant posting has naught to do with it.
Keep dreaming about the brilliance of your posting Roll


You see a guy mining or hauling in peace in a lawful fashion in highsec. You decide to blow him up just for giggles. Why? Because you enjoy pissing people off. Sad but true.
Concord Guy's Cousin
Doomheim
#69 - 2015-01-27 22:28:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Concord Guy's Cousin
Veers Belvar wrote:
You see a guy mining or hauling in peace in a lawful fashion in highsec.
They're engaged in PvP of a sort, mining is PvP, hauling is PvP. In fact anything that involves the market at any stage is PvP
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You decide to blow him up just for giggles. Why? Because you enjoy pissing people off. Sad but true.
  • That's a huge assumption on your part
  • Statistically speaking there is always going to be a minority of people who do it for giggles, they're by no means in the majority though.

    • Those who don't do it for giggles generally have an ulterior motive such as the removal of potential competition, shiny loot, the sale of ships and modules, profit, etc. This group also tend to be the ones who try and educate those that just got blown up, even the so called "sociopaths" in CODE. are likely to give good advice when approached correctly; ranting, making threats and throwing childish tantrums gets you nowhere though.

    ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"

    NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
    Veers Belvar
    Swordmasters of New Eden
    #70 - 2015-01-28 00:02:53 UTC
    Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
    Veers Belvar wrote:
    You see a guy mining or hauling in peace in a lawful fashion in highsec.
    They're engaged in PvP of a sort, mining is PvP, hauling is PvP. In fact anything that involves the market at any stage is PvP
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    You decide to blow him up just for giggles. Why? Because you enjoy pissing people off. Sad but true.
  • That's a huge assumption on your part
  • Statistically speaking there is always going to be a minority of people who do it for giggles, they're by no means in the majority though.

    • Those who don't do it for giggles generally have an ulterior motive such as the removal of potential competition, shiny loot, the sale of ships and modules, profit, etc. This group also tend to be the ones who try and educate those that just got blown up, even the so called "sociopaths" in CODE. are likely to give good advice when approached correctly; ranting, making threats and throwing childish tantrums gets you nowhere though.



    Some poor fool mining in his fail fit retriever, scrounging together a few pennies, is not killed as some part of brilliant plan. It's just a way to grief pathetic people and make them cry. The guy isn't meaningful competition, has no shiny loot, and will be ganked at a loss, of course. It's purely done for giggles, obviously.
    Concord Guy's Cousin
    Doomheim
    #71 - 2015-01-28 00:16:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Concord Guy's Cousin
    Veers Belvar wrote:
    Some poor fool mining in his fail fit retriever, scrounging together a few pennies, is not killed as some part of brilliant plan.
    That may well be true, if however the Retriever wasn't so poorly fitted that it was the easiest target in the belt...

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    It's just a way to grief pathetic people and make them cry.
    Pathetic? Way to denigrate the very people you claim to represent. That characterisation makes you appear to be a really twisted and nasty piece of work.

    As for the crying part it's their problem if they feel the need to shed tears over some pixels, not mine

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    The guy isn't meaningful competition, has no shiny loot, and will be ganked at a loss, of course.
    If he's mining in a belt where I am also mining then he is competition, the more he mines, the less there is for me to mine.

    You should discuss the profit/loss equation with your sidekick Lucas, he claims the exact opposite.

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    It's purely done for giggles, obviously.
    In your opinion maybe, the truth is that not everyone is as twisted as you appear to be.

    ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"

    NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
    Veers Belvar
    Swordmasters of New Eden
    #72 - 2015-01-28 00:21:59 UTC
    Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
    Veers Belvar wrote:
    Some poor fool mining in his fail fit retriever, scrounging together a few pennies, is not killed as some part of brilliant plan.
    That may well be true, if however the Retriever wasn't so poorly fitted that it was the easiest target in the belt...

    as for the crying part it's their problem if they feel the need to shed tears over some pixels, not mine

    If he's mining in a belt where I am also mining then he is competition, the more he mines, the less there is for me to mine.


    Asteroid belts in Eve have nearly limitless capacity...the retriever does not create scarcity where none exists. It's just an excuse to blow things up.
    Concord Guy's Cousin
    Doomheim
    #73 - 2015-01-28 00:31:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Concord Guy's Cousin
    Veers Belvar wrote:
    Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
    If he's mining in a belt where I am also mining then he is competition, the more he mines, the less there is for me to mine.


    Asteroid belts in Eve have nearly limitless capacity...the retriever does not create scarcity where none exists. It's just an excuse to blow things up.
    Ice belts don't, and it's not uncommon to find asteroid belts completely mined out. Sure I can move around to find a system that hasn't been stripmined but that doesn't change the fact that the guy in the Retriever is still competition for local resources.

    ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"

    NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
    mustafa ahmed han
    maharajin
    #74 - 2015-01-28 05:50:49 UTC  |  Edited by: mustafa ahmed han
    Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
    Veers Belvar wrote:
    Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
    If he's mining in a belt where I am also mining then he is competition, the more he mines, the less there is for me to mine.


    Asteroid belts in Eve have nearly limitless capacity...the retriever does not create scarcity where none exists. It's just an excuse to blow things up.
    Ice belts don't, and it's not uncommon to find asteroid belts completely mined out. Sure I can move around to find a system that hasn't been stripmined but that doesn't change the fact that the guy in the Retriever is still competition for local resources.




    Since the systems are empire which you dont own and have no right to claim as yours, CCP should remove high sec make all systems free to take NUL sec, get rid of the plex system, so carebears QUIT buying plex to sell to your greedy isk people and to play for free or fund your gank alts, make it so people can buy isk from CCP instead.
    It would fal in line because everything would get more expensive to buy from the market, less is produced people are gona buy ISK 100% from CCP to fund their losses, and you can earn a ton of isk on the market becouse less would feed it so everything is expensive and then you can swim in your ISK pool, And it also stops bring in carebears which made it possible at the first place that EVE is still alive as a game. and then you have all the freedom of Claiming your own system and kill who you like without even needing a gank alt to remove competition.
    This way it also create that you have 1 type of equal minded people in the game, all want to play space survival and play the KOS game, and to get easy isk to buy ships to play the KOS game, CCP should sell ISK instead PLEX.
    no illusion anymore for the carebear, you can mine in your own claimed system becouse there will be enough space for yourself.

    CCP, should go this way. stop selling PLEX to carebears, so you guy's cant feest on them. Let the bears buy isk from CCP instead or remove high sec get rid of the bears and then you have all the space you want since everyone would spraid around because systems are all NUL sec all the same. BTW high sec is to small everyone is packed on to eachother, if CCP keeps the carebears they should give NUL sec to them, and make it a super carebearland and give HIGH sec to you guy's made into NUL sec. Idea


    NOTE; this is no rant nor is it a troll post, it is the truth. high sec is getting to small and i would like to buy isk from CCP instead
    because IMHO i dont want to fund people that ruin other people gaming expirience, at least not for free Lol
    Leto Thule
    Caldari Provisions
    Caldari State
    #75 - 2015-01-28 06:50:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Leto Thule
    mustafa ahmed han wrote:
    Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
    Veers Belvar wrote:
    Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
    If he's mining in a belt where I am also mining then he is competition, the more he mines, the less there is for me to mine.


    Asteroid belts in Eve have nearly limitless capacity...the retriever does not create scarcity where none exists. It's just an excuse to blow things up.
    Ice belts don't, and it's not uncommon to find asteroid belts completely mined out. Sure I can move around to find a system that hasn't been stripmined but that doesn't change the fact that the guy in the Retriever is still competition for local resources.




    Since the systems are empire which you dont own and have no right to claim as yours, CCP should remove high sec make all systems free to take NUL sec, get rid of the plex system, so carebears QUIT buying plex to sell to your greedy isk people and to play for free or fund your gank alts, make it so people can buy isk from CCP instead.
    It would fal in line because everything would get more expensive to buy from the market, less is produced people are gona buy ISK 100% from CCP to fund their losses, and you can earn a ton of isk on the market becouse less would feed it so everything is expensive and then you can swim in your ISK pool, And it also stops bring in carebears which made it possible at the first place that EVE is still alive as a game. and then you have all the freedom of Claiming your own system and kill who you like without even needing a gank alt to remove competition.
    This way it also create that you have 1 type of equal minded people in the game, all want to play space survival and play the KOS game, and to get easy isk to buy ships to play the KOS game, CCP should sell ISK instead PLEX.
    no illusion anymore for the carebear, you can mine in your own claimed system becouse there will be enough space for yourself.

    CCP, should go this way. stop selling PLEX to carebears, so you guy's cant feest on them. Let the bears buy isk from CCP instead or remove high sec get rid of the bears and then you have all the space you want since everyone would spraid around because systems are all NUL sec all the same. BTW high sec is to small everyone is packed on to eachother, if CCP keeps the carebears they should give NUL sec to them, and make it a super carebearland and give HIGH sec to you guy's made into NUL sec. Idea


    NOTE; this is no rant nor is it a troll post, it is the truth. high sec is getting to small and i would like to buy isk from CCP instead
    because IMHO i dont want to fund people that ruin other people gaming expirience, at least not for free Lol


    Obvious troll is bad.

    -50/10

    We are all dumber from having read your sorry, misspelled, heaping mass of a steaming pile of a post. You are awarded negative points, and may Bob have mercy on your soul.

    Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
    Concord Guy's Cousin
    Doomheim
    #76 - 2015-01-28 10:11:11 UTC
    mustafa ahmed han wrote:
    Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
    Veers Belvar wrote:
    Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
    If he's mining in a belt where I am also mining then he is competition, the more he mines, the less there is for me to mine.


    Asteroid belts in Eve have nearly limitless capacity...the retriever does not create scarcity where none exists. It's just an excuse to blow things up.
    Ice belts don't, and it's not uncommon to find asteroid belts completely mined out. Sure I can move around to find a system that hasn't been stripmined but that doesn't change the fact that the guy in the Retriever is still competition for local resources.




    Since the systems are empire which you dont own and have no right to claim as yours, CCP should remove high sec make all systems free to take NUL sec, get rid of the plex system, so carebears QUIT buying plex to sell to your greedy isk people and to play for free or fund your gank alts, make it so people can buy isk from CCP instead.
    It would fal in line because everything would get more expensive to buy from the market, less is produced people are gona buy ISK 100% from CCP to fund their losses, and you can earn a ton of isk on the market becouse less would feed it so everything is expensive and then you can swim in your ISK pool, And it also stops bring in carebears which made it possible at the first place that EVE is still alive as a game. and then you have all the freedom of Claiming your own system and kill who you like without even needing a gank alt to remove competition.
    This way it also create that you have 1 type of equal minded people in the game, all want to play space survival and play the KOS game, and to get easy isk to buy ships to play the KOS game, CCP should sell ISK instead PLEX.
    no illusion anymore for the carebear, you can mine in your own claimed system becouse there will be enough space for yourself.

    CCP, should go this way. stop selling PLEX to carebears, so you guy's cant feest on them. Let the bears buy isk from CCP instead or remove high sec get rid of the bears and then you have all the space you want since everyone would spraid around because systems are all NUL sec all the same. BTW high sec is to small everyone is packed on to eachother, if CCP keeps the carebears they should give NUL sec to them, and make it a super carebearland and give HIGH sec to you guy's made into NUL sec. Idea


    NOTE; this is no rant nor is it a troll post, it is the truth. high sec is getting to small and i would like to buy isk from CCP instead
    because IMHO i dont want to fund people that ruin other people gaming expirience, at least not for free Lol
    Take this steaming pile of illiterate horse manure to Features and Ideas where it can get the ridicule it truly deserves.

    ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"

    NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
    Tasspool Harp
    Royal Amarr Institute
    Amarr Empire
    #77 - 2015-01-28 11:34:44 UTC
    Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
    Take this steaming pile of illiterate horse manure to Features and Ideas where it can get the ridicule it truly deserves.



    Yep. We got there…

    Tasspool's Rule : Threads in C&P surviving to page #4 will proceed to be largely indistinguishable from each other.

    OP: I found an anom with some arkonor and so i mined it but after 4 hours I barely made any more isk than if I had mined scordite. I don't get it. Should I ask CCP ?

    .
    ..
    ...

    # CODE. always win!
    # *Takes Red Pill* HTFU. Here is my CCP Falcon quote that I paste into every thread.
    # I didn't like this post. I have taken note of your name OP and I will wardec your corp.
    # *Takes Blue Pill* I've got some helpful information on my web-site. Link here. Always happy to help newbros
    # Elite PVErs will always overcome sucky CODE. lackeys

    … 1.5 pages of Grrrrr Veers

    # Obscure Reference. In-joke. ;) . Vote for me CSM X
    # * Takes Red Pill * HTFU about your Arkonor. I'm going to add someone to the kill-it forward list for that.
    # I hope I'm around next time to collect your tears (in a harmless this is just a spaceship game we're all playing right and nothing to do with RL). Yummy Tears..hehehe
    # According to Article 9 subsection C…
    # Wrong. The game mechanic is working exactly as intended and I'm sure CCP agree with me. You're a Veers alt aren't you ?

    ...1 page of TLDR Space Lawyer debating about Smurfs in Highsex Banking

    # Whiney carebear. The Arkonor Awox has been around since 1973. Stop trying to change my game. EvE isn't for everyone and maybe you should just go back to Pong or that other MMO and leave EvE to us absinthe drinkers.

    # Closing/Moving Thread. Thanks everyone !
    Ro Fenrios
    Armilies Corporation
    Domain Research and Mining Inst.
    #78 - 2015-01-28 12:16:42 UTC
    Dar'Nalaa wrote:
    Great victory at Uedama

    People power made a stand last night against large outlaw forces
    Unfortunately freighters where lost
    Anti-outlaw forces put the gankers under more presser with EW, shield rep ship and anti-gank fire
    One fighter reported to have got onto 12 concord assisted kill-mails “well done him I say”

    Another fighter when asked about the nights fighting said
    “ So many ships helping us out, even The Marmite collective where on the field , we had to make sure not to get a outlaw flag our self for fear of falling to their guns," but all the same they helped pop gankers, well done.

    As the locals added more interference to the ganks, so the gank fleets had to up their ship types to Battlecruisers from Destroyers .
    One excited pilot told me
    “at one point a whole gank fleet failed to kill a freighter , ship ablaze as local fleets and concord ripped the gankers to pieces and sent their pods running “

    As you see a good night flying space ship. Last night we had many 1st timers with us who had a jolly good time, well done to those, hope you learned something, so pop over to the Anti-ganking channel and find out how you can help. With more people we can make it even harder for them

    On a side note not many Code around or selling permit, gank fleets where mostly code lackeys and lapdog wanna bes, just griefing ganks now, plan and simple

    Code please make an effort to keep the content going.........


    all the best Dar'Nalaa




    Hats for you. There are not that many players that stand up against ganking. Sure they cannot all be stopped, but even forcing gankers to switch into heavier ships makes difference, even more so if you manage to prevent a gank.

    Ganking should not cease to exist, but there should be a counter force to balance it out. Perhaps if you guys get enough fame and become more known, you can turn this into business of sort?

    In any case. If you had fun, that already was half victory, regardless of objectives.
    Concord Guy's Cousin
    Doomheim
    #79 - 2015-01-28 12:56:31 UTC
    Tasspool Harp wrote:
    Concord Guy's Cousin wrote:
    Take this steaming pile of illiterate horse manure to Features and Ideas where it can get the ridicule it truly deserves.
    Yep. We got there…
    His post was completely off-topic, in the wrong forum section, poorly thought out and barely readable. Hence I stand by my comment.

    ISD LackOfFaith ~ "Your Catalyst was a hamster, and your Retriever smelt of elderberries"

    NPC Forum Alt, because reasons.
    Solonius Rex
    Federal Navy Academy
    Gallente Federation
    #80 - 2015-01-28 16:25:49 UTC
    Veers Belvar wrote:
    Solonius Rex wrote:


    You still havent answered my question. How did they lose to "you"? Did they try to gank you repeatedly, and fail every time? I dont see any code kills on your killboard.

    Furthermore, has code never successfully killed an incursion ship? Whats the isk loss to isk killed ratio? Cause even one incursion ship can be worth 2-3 billion easily.


    They tried to gank incursions ships...failed...and gave up. Victory in Eve isn't about KB's...it's about accomplishing your objectives. I did, and code did not...that is a victory for Veers.


    By that logic, ive never been killed by Black Legion before, therefore ive won against them! Wow, that was easy. I won against so many people in Eve.

    Also, looking at their killboards, it looks like they killed a couple incursion ships. So i dont see how they "Failed" at doing this.