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How to make people dont care to lose ships in EVE

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mustafa ahmed han
maharajin
#1 - 2015-01-28 07:50:02 UTC
Since it is expensive to do cheap PVP, hence even to lose any ship, people wil stop trying to lose their ships.
this all will stall the economie in EVE, since we depend on mass consumption.
People who think to make the market less feeded are wrong, you are better of selling 4 ships then to sell 1 ship,
so people would not care that much when they lost a ship.
cheap ships and fitting would benefit everyone, why would you want to sell a 50million ship to a guy and blow him 1 time out the sky, when you can sell him 4 for that price and blow him 4 times out the sky for example.
Traders can have fun to see their big isk wallets grow, but people who like to wreck ships for the fun cant have fun because they are worried everything is expensive and they can not replace it cheap.
Buy a ship in high sec verry expensive to see it blown up in low and nul 10 min later is not gona send people into low and nul.





1 flood the markets with materials
2 build many ships
3 buy cheap
4 wreck them all = win win no feelings hurt, because it was cheap Shocked
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#2 - 2015-01-28 07:54:24 UTC
mustafa ahmed han wrote:
Since it is expensive to do cheap PVP, hence even to lose any ship, people wil stop trying to lose their ships.
this all will stall the economie in EVE, since we depend on mass consumption.
People who think to make the market less feeded are wrong, you are better of selling 4 ships then to sell 1 ship,
so people would not care that much when they lost a ship.
cheap ships and fitting would benefit everyone, why would you want to sell a 50million ship to a guy and blow him 1 time out the sky, when you can sell him 4 for that price and blow him 4 times out the sky for example.
Traders can have fun to see their big isk wallets grow, but people who like to wreck ships for the fun cant have fun because they are worried everything is expensive and they can not replace it cheap.
Buy a ship in high sec verry expensive to see it blown up in low and nul 10 min later is not gona send people into low and nul.





1 flood the markets with materials
2 build many ships
3 buy cheap
4 wreck them all = win win no feelings hurt, because it was cheap Shocked


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yea no... you want to know when i stopped caring about ship loss? 2010. year 6 in eve. and only because i lost a 25b isk ship.

In one month i lost 50 badgers, back in 08, i reduced what i cared.. till i lost my carrier, then a nyx. so yea, no. The only way to not care about loss.. is to not be attached to your ship.

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2015-01-28 07:59:52 UTC
How to make people not scared to lose ships in EVE. Well there's an S. And then an R. And then a P.
Paranoid Loyd
#4 - 2015-01-28 08:00:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
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The Troll Bridge
#5 - 2015-01-28 08:08:23 UTC
What did I just read?






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Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#6 - 2015-01-28 08:21:30 UTC
Says a guy with a 1:0 kill:loss ratio killing a covertor in highsec.

Maybe get out and pvp yourself before complaining about others not being prepared to lose ships.
Signal11th
#7 - 2015-01-28 08:54:10 UTC
When most people realise that if you are in a ship you worry about losing then you are doing it wrong. Always keep enough in your wallet to instantly replace the ship you are currently flying then you stop worrying about it and if you can't afford to replace it instantly then you shouldn't be flying it.

As the Goonie up above said there's also SRP but that usually means you are bored to tears clicking F1 but it's valid way of no fear pvp.

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Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#8 - 2015-01-28 09:11:40 UTC
Signal11th wrote:
When most people realise that if you are in a ship you worry about losing then you are doing it wrong. Always keep enough in your wallet to instantly replace the ship you are currently flying then you stop worrying about it and if you can't afford to replace it instantly then you shouldn't be flying it.

As the Goonie up above said there's also SRP but that usually means you are bored to tears clicking F1 but it's valid way of no fear pvp.


Yes, because no organization in their right mind would SRP solo and small gang activities outside of a massive blob. I mean, why would they make sure people get compensated for having fun in the space their alliance operates in, this would be horrible!

Waaaait...
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#9 - 2015-01-28 09:12:01 UTC
I smiled. I think you're cute OP

Now for the real super useful reply:

"Don't undock what you can't afford to lose"

Soon you'll be undocking all kinds of nasty stuff, without a care. As a matter of fact, given time, you may end up losing stuff you cant even dock. Right Reaper? :P


Arla Sarain
#10 - 2015-01-28 09:40:58 UTC
If more people fly what they can afford to lose, conservative PVP would never be an issue.
Signal11th
#11 - 2015-01-28 11:06:22 UTC
Adrie Atticus wrote:
Signal11th wrote:
When most people realise that if you are in a ship you worry about losing then you are doing it wrong. Always keep enough in your wallet to instantly replace the ship you are currently flying then you stop worrying about it and if you can't afford to replace it instantly then you shouldn't be flying it.

As the Goonie up above said there's also SRP but that usually means you are bored to tears clicking F1 but it's valid way of no fear pvp.


Yes, because no organization in their right mind would SRP solo and small gang activities outside of a massive blob. I mean, why would they make sure people get compensated for having fun in the space their alliance operates in, this would be horrible!

Waaaait...



Hence the word "usually" I do wish people would understand what's been written before they jump to conclusions.

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#12 - 2015-01-28 11:10:41 UTC
OP seems to be under the impression that PVP is consensual. This could not be further from the truth. Usually one party wants PVP and the other party is desperately trying to get away because he is (choose any of the following) being blobbed/outgunned/outclassed/bit off more than he could chew/is drunk/is a carebear etc. PVP with consent from both parties is very rare indeed! In fact usually it means you are doing it wrong...
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
Senpai's Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club
#13 - 2015-01-28 12:10:00 UTC
Welp, I'm convinced.

*tears up his economics degree*

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Serene Repose
#14 - 2015-01-28 13:37:13 UTC
Staring at space does funny things to the mind. People start to thinking. They have the idea their brains are computers - and so infalliable. So, they think their thoughts are messages of truth from the universe itself. Then, they get the idea they need to tell everybody else the brilliant insight they've just revealed, so humanity can stop wallowing in ignorance and stumbling about in the darkness. Then....THEY POST! Shocked

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We must accommodate the idiocracy.

Chopper Rollins
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#15 - 2015-01-28 13:44:28 UTC
Protip: less consequences does not make for more fun.
Humans need play and danger, civilization offers them work and safety.
In EvE there is little civilization to speak of, the environment spawns infinitely and there is no need to consider non-combatants like pregnant women and children. I know your avatar has a mad rack but every target in New Eden is gender neutral, ultimately.
OP's brain fart made it to the screen.


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Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
#16 - 2015-01-28 13:47:15 UTC
People will not become less risk-averse because things are cheaper, the tear-threshold will simply drop. When we reached the point where you respawned for free after death, we'd go from risk-averse to losing-averse and the tears would continue to flow.

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Jack Morrison
Team Liquid crp.
#17 - 2015-01-28 14:03:19 UTC
4/10 not bad, not bad at all

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Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#18 - 2015-01-28 14:38:16 UTC
Periodically, give everyone who has less than 5 kills a combat fit frigate that can't be sold and will self-destruct after two weeks. If it is lost in battle player gets 1 million isk insurance payout.




Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#19 - 2015-01-28 15:41:58 UTC
The reasoning here is a tad convoluted, OP. I hope you think about this:

If you did not care about losing your ship, you wouldn't bother to try to become a skilled capsuleer. It would make no difference to you. You could just pilot a noob ship to Hek (for instance), pick a fight and get smoked. A new ship with 1 Veldspar (bows in Chribba's general direction) would appear in station and whammo you'd be set to go out and
do it again.

ALL that training time. ALL those MILLIONS for those high-end skill books would be pointless. The market you seem to care about would be pointless, too. You don't need to buy anything to go out and just lose ships. So, you see, maybe at the time you thought a stroke of brilliance came your way, but on closer examination, not.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#20 - 2015-01-28 15:50:24 UTC
i am don care for loose ship game is game

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