EVE General Discussion

while I agree the ruling is sound, and the tactic does not violate any rulings or evade game mechanics; as a trader this concerns me because of the implications if restraint isn't shown when using the tactic.

highsec ganking does actually contribute to the health of the game by increasing the difference in value of items in different locations, however something like this if done without restraint can have large negative impacts on the costs of doing business for traders.

so please gankers, don't overuse this, pick your targets.

the bad game design in this case looks more to be the ability to keep a freighter out of warp by bumping it continuously than it is any of the mechanics in use by the pilots actually applying damage in the gank. since there is nothing that can be done on the freighter pilot's end to combat the tactic (usually counter-bumping is next to impossible, and requires an alt)

They are picking their targets: they go for the easy ones. That's all you need to know to be 100% safe from non-meta ganks in highsec (meta ganks being ones that play towards something outside of the game, be it pure KB epeen or personal vengeance).

Jollyjabbing, huh? I honestly haven't heard that one but it sounds a lot better than *cough*spew*gag* “hyperdunking”. I think I'll start using that one instead.

To clarify- the only way this works is if someone is not at all paying attention or has logged off.

If they have such a skilled bumper that you are unable to make it to the gate nor another celestial, then you would have died no matter the method used against you.

If you want to move billions worth of cargo around without any type of support (one webber?), then you are completely at fault for taking the risk.

High-sec already has the advantage that you can hide in NPC corps that cannot be war-decced. To be fair, they should remove NPC corps (or put a ship size limit on them), and fix the "War" mechanic, and then they could nerf highsec ganking.

Crying that one out of a thousand freighters gets ganked is a joke, everyone already abuses NPC alts to move cargo around in space.

So you'll be adding some requirement for us freighter pilots to put in at least some token effort and intelligence… when? Soon? Please?!

Bring a Nestor along to web/logi your freighter. You know you have one.

"Hyperdunking" is almost trivially easy to disrupt compared to the standard method.

The issue here is the same as it has always been: the AFK or near-AFK hauling demographic furiously defending its right to haul AFK/solo unmolested

This is why we need a sarcasm tag

Some people might take it seriously

Make it so

Thank you, CCP Falcon, for this rich harvest of tears.

Hulls for the Hull Throne, pod goo for the Pod Goo God!

Lets be serious here guys, I hate to be the debbie downer for freighter and industrial pilots, but no matter what happens.

If you fly with something worth ganking, your going to get ganked. Just be smart, dont go afk, use a webber. OTHERWISE, you will end up like the people inside of the player hugh forehead's biography EVERY TIME. WE will FIND you. Hyperdunking or not.

One thing that worries me is that ganking is cheap, like really cheap. An empty freighter is killboard green by a huge margin, no matter how tanked.

The old argument against this used to be "but to gank a freighter you need a lot of players and you can't always get a lot of players organised in time". Now it doesn't. Now a gank of any size requires 3 characters.