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Cap Transmitter Powering POS Modules
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Colette Kassia
Kassia Industrial Supply
#1 - 2015-01-27 08:33:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Colette Kassia
Here is a silly idea that probably belongs on the 'one line bad idea' thread, but is longer than one line.

A starbase 'Compressing Array' requires 100,000 MW of power to run.
A 'Large Remote Capacitor Transmitter' transfers 270 GJ (I assume "points" are gigajoules. ???) with duration of 5 seconds.

That works out to an average power transfer of 270,000 MJ / 5s = 54,000 MW. So two of these could theoretically power the compression array!

I propose that starbase structures be anchorable without a nearby tower and be powerable by a nearby ship via Capacitor Transmitters (obviously excluding towers, and within normal security status restrictions).

Picture it: instead of going out, and dropping a small tower and compression array for an hour-or-so to compress a few freighter's worth of ore, you could just drop the array at a spot and drive it with a large ship! And you could do the same thing with reprocessing arrays. And reactors. And moon harvesters. Anything!

Some of these structures require an awful lot of power. Maybe they should run at lower speed if they can't get their normal power requirement. For example, a Complex Reactor draws 250,000 MW. If you are driving 108,000 MW then it would do its job at 43% normal speed. On the other hand, overdriving a 10,000 MW moon harvester with 54,000 MW would cause it to run at 540% normal speed! I'm not saying that all of this would be practical (labs...). Some guy parked at a moon for hours and hours would be an obvious ganking target (not worth the little value it would produce). But you could do it if you were willing to sit there long enough.

But the real fun starts when you think about weapons batteries! These things have huge power requirements, so rate-of-fire would be reduced to the percentage of the gun's normal power that your ship can pump out. And you'd have to staty within operating range (probably ~3000m), so you'd be a sitting duck. But you'd be a sitting duck with a Capital-class blaster! Or maybe you could charge it up and leave it there, and it stays charged until someone in a frigate comes along and fires it. BAM!! I'm sure one of you could think of a use for that. Twisted

I have no idea how practical this would be, but I bet it'd be a hell of a lot of fun! :)

(This doesn't address the matter of CPU, but I choose to ignore that. Let's say that the capsuleer is able to link their awesome brain-power while within operation range, or something.)
Anhenka
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2015-01-27 08:39:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Anhenka
Colette Kassia wrote:
Here is a silly idea that probably belongs on the 'one line bad idea' thread, but is longer than one line.

A starbase 'Compressing Array' requires 100,000 MW of power to run.
A 'Large Remote Capacitor Transmitter' transfers 270 GJ (I assume "points" are gigajoules. ???) with duration of 5 seconds.

That works out to an average power transfer of 270,000 MJ / 5s = 54,000 MW. So two of these could theoretically power the compression array!

I propose that starbase structures be anchorable without a nearby tower and be powerable by a nearby ship via Capacitor Transmitters (obviously excluding towers, and within normal security status restrictions).

Picture it: instead of going out, and dropping a small tower and compression array for an hour-or-so to compress a few freighter's worth of ore, you could just drop the array at a spot and drive it with a large ship! And you could do the same thing with reprocessing arrays. And reactors. And moon harvesters. Anything!

Some of these structures require an awful lot of power. Maybe they should run at lower speed if they can't get their normal power requirement. For example, a Complex Reactor draws 250,000 MW. If you are driving 108,000 MW then it would do its job at 43% normal speed. On the other hand, overdriving a 10,000 MW moon harvester with 54,000 MW would cause it to run at 540% normal speed! I'm not saying that all of this would be practical (labs...). Some guy parked at a moon for hours and hours would be an obvious ganking target (not worth the little value it would produce). But you could do it if you were willing to sit there long enough.

But the real fun starts when you think about weapons batteries! These things have huge power requirements, so rate-of-fire would be reduced to the percentage of the gun's normal power that your ship can pump out. And you'd have to staty within operating range (probably ~3000m), so you'd be a sitting duck. But you'd be a sitting duck with a Capital-class blaster! Or maybe you could charge it up and leave it there, and it stays charged until someone in a frigate comes along and discharges it. BAM!! I'm sure one of you could think of a use for that. Twisted

I have no idea how practical this would be, but I bet it'd be a hell of a lot of fun! :)

(This doesn't address the matter of CPU, but I choose to ignore that. Let's say that the capsuleer is able to link their awesome brain-power while within operation range, or something.)

I for one welcome the opportunity to put a Triage Archon with 4 capital energy transfers on a moon harvesting array, spewing forth hundreds of thousands of unites of R64 material per hour.

This has to be one of the silliest ideas I have seen in quite a while, a full on made me giggle in an unmanly fashion sort of idea. I like it, it's awesome. It would be so much fun to do things with this mechanic.

But from a game balance standpoint, it's an unworkable nightmare. Sorry, but it's just not possible.
So +1 for a fun idea, -2 on being unusable.
Colette Kassia
Kassia Industrial Supply
#3 - 2015-01-27 08:50:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Colette Kassia
Anhenka wrote:

I for one welcome the opportunity to put a Triage Archon with 4 capital energy transfers on a moon harvesting array, spewing forth hundreds of thousands of unites of R64 material per hour.


Well, yeah. In the very unlikely event that CCP decides to do anything even like this, they'd have to put a upper limit on it. Like 200% normal speed, beyond which it blows up.

[EDIT: Hmm.. 200% may be a bit low. Let's go... 1000% Big smile ]
Amanda Compton
PIXEL Corp
#4 - 2015-01-27 10:24:47 UTC
hahahaha i like it
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#5 - 2015-01-27 11:40:16 UTC
Combined with giving the rorqual a bonus to energy transmitters when using the industrial core :D

I like the idea but as mentioned above the balancing aspect could be a bit demanding.
Van Beyus
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2015-01-28 01:03:59 UTC
I like the idea of stationary structures powered and controlled by ships but I don't think they should be POS structures. Maybe they could be different, deployables instead. I'd go even further and totally replace sentry drones for something like this.

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Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#7 - 2015-01-28 02:26:09 UTC
I like the "upper limit or else it blows up" idea, but ... I insist that it must, in fact, blow up. Spectacularly. With grand, rumbling sound.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#8 - 2015-01-28 06:07:42 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
I like the "upper limit or else it blows up" idea, but ... I insist that it must, in fact, blow up. Spectacularly. With grand, rumbling sound.


lol have it do AOE damage and overload a X-L SMA in the middle of a fight

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Hopelesshobo
Hoboland
#9 - 2015-01-28 18:26:43 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
I like the "upper limit or else it blows up" idea, but ... I insist that it must, in fact, blow up. Spectacularly. With grand, rumbling sound.


lol have it do AOE damage and overload a X-L SMA in the middle of a fight


Don't forget to have this mechanic apply to ships as well to give 0-6 Basis and Guardians something to do. Then the Bhaalgorn could become a new logi to prevent a ship from blowing up by being under cap exploding pressure.

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Colette Kassia
Kassia Industrial Supply
#10 - 2015-01-28 18:52:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Colette Kassia
[EDIT: Deleted. On second thought, that's would be awful. Friends don't let friends drink and post.]