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Capitals in highsec? Make standings matter then
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Lugh Crow-Slave
#41 - 2015-01-26 17:50:22 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:


Now, if you could cyno into 0.5-0.7, cutting across hisec would be do-able. Probably almost trivial. This, coupled with a few other notions, is why I firmly believe that if capitals ever do get access to hisec, it be by stargate only.


yeah although i feel caps in HS may be doable i would never be for cynos anyplace in HS




as for how much a dread + just guns and tracking you would get to around 2.4-2.6 bill depending on the market


so yeas it would be worth it for the lulz or to make proffit in some casses (nags would be king for this as most can alpha cargo fit freighters) but a moros would be more reliable if your nag missed you would only get one more shot b4 CONCORD was on you

I feel like if capitals ever do get allowed in hisec, the CONCORD response against capital ships may have to get beefed up considerably. It's scary to think it, but a fully-insured, cheaply fit dread could likely solo-gank the right freighter and still profit.


it's more than likely and even ignoring if you could profit i would be more than willing to pay that much every now and then just for the tears

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#42 - 2015-01-26 18:01:48 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:


Now, if you could cyno into 0.5-0.7, cutting across hisec would be do-able. Probably almost trivial. This, coupled with a few other notions, is why I firmly believe that if capitals ever do get access to hisec, it be by stargate only.


yeah although i feel caps in HS may be doable i would never be for cynos anyplace in HS




as for how much a dread + just guns and tracking you would get to around 2.4-2.6 bill depending on the market


so yeas it would be worth it for the lulz or to make proffit in some casses (nags would be king for this as most can alpha cargo fit freighters) but a moros would be more reliable if your nag missed you would only get one more shot b4 CONCORD was on you

I feel like if capitals ever do get allowed in hisec, the CONCORD response against capital ships may have to get beefed up considerably. It's scary to think it, but a fully-insured, cheaply fit dread could likely solo-gank the right freighter and still profit.


it's more than likely and even ignoring if you could profit i would be more than willing to pay that much every now and then just for the tears


A moros sieged on a gate is probably the most "I want to make my point clear" move.
Altirius Saldiaro
Doomheim
#43 - 2015-01-26 21:34:32 UTC
They will eventually be able to travel gates in highsec, but won't be allowed to use weapons. I doubt cynos will be allowed to be used too.
Black Pedro
Mine.
#44 - 2015-01-26 21:48:12 UTC
Altirius Saldiaro wrote:
They will eventually be able to travel gates in highsec, but won't be allowed to use weapons. I doubt cynos will be allowed to be used too.
No, probably not as it would completely break hauling. It will only happen if CONCORD is changed in some way or removed so that capitals are somehow vulnerable.

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#45 - 2015-01-27 04:05:10 UTC
Block all weapons, any form of remote reps and disable all links, then restrict them to gate travel only or like th eJF's are now jumping out only and I could agree top caps in high sec.

Other wise there is just to many ways that people can and would use them to make life in high sec for most players nearly impossible.

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#46 - 2015-01-27 04:15:03 UTC
Altirius Saldiaro wrote:
They will eventually be able to travel gates in highsec, but won't be allowed to use weapons. I doubt cynos will be allowed to be used too.



citation needed

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#47 - 2015-01-27 06:03:36 UTC  |  Edited by: baltec1
Altirius Saldiaro wrote:
They will eventually be able to travel gates in highsec, but won't be allowed to use weapons. I doubt cynos will be allowed to be used too.


Donnachadh wrote:
Block all weapons, any form of remote reps and disable all links, then restrict them to gate travel only or like th eJF's are now jumping out only and I could agree top caps in high sec.

Other wise there is just to many ways that people can and would use them to make life in high sec for most players nearly impossible.

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If you have to savagely nerf capitals to this degree for them to enter high sec then they don't belong there.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#48 - 2015-01-28 02:56:40 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
If you have to savagely nerf capitals to this degree for them to enter high sec then they don't belong there.

That was essentially the point I am trying to make.
I have seen the hell that a single caps ship can cause in low and nul, the game does not need that level of defensive and offensive capabilities in high sec. In the hands of the war dec corps it could and most likely would turn high sec into a killing zone where most players would have no ability to get out and do anything except die. And I do not want to even think about what might happen if groups like Code could field cap ships. Think of burn Jita with cap ship fleets, no thanks.

On the other hand knowing many cap pilots I can feel some of their pain with the new restricted movement that jump fatigue has created. Mind you I think those restrictions are good for the overall health of the game but done properly I can see reasons for and would support allowing cap ships to transit through high sec.
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