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Candi LeMew
Division 13
#21 - 2015-01-24 11:06:38 UTC
Daww!

For me the players make the game. Smile

Anyway you write good posts, seem intelligent and level headed about how you feel and obviously find something good enough here to keep drawing you back. I hope along the way you find something that makes it worth staying.

🍌

Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching...

"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#22 - 2015-01-24 14:34:20 UTC
I still have concerns that EVE is just successful enough for *someone* to keep making the game they want to make, rather than a game that people want to play.

Help, I can't download EVE

President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub

PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#23 - 2015-01-24 14:50:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
Rain6637 wrote:
I still have concerns that EVE is just successful enough for *someone* to keep making the game they want to make, rather than a game that people want to play.


Probably our concepts of "game that people want to play" are different, and maybe are totally opposite. But I feel the same, EVE is the game someone wants to make for artistical(?) and/or ideological(?) reasons, not necessarily a game others would want to play.
Vapor Ventrillian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2015-01-24 23:25:54 UTC
Hello and Welcome Back to eve

o7

The Evil Overlord of Scope, self elected as all good overlords should be
Badel Jramodarr
#25 - 2015-01-25 00:10:50 UTC
Welcome back for however long you decide is worth it.
Have fun with whatever you find pleasing, and good luck in your future endeavours where ever that may lead o7

In the meantime, grab a coffee and grab me one while you're at it, thanks. Cool

I don't always have a signature; but when I do, it doesn't say anything at all

...I'm on a horse
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#26 - 2015-01-25 17:41:45 UTC
Badel Jramodarr wrote:
Welcome back for however long you decide is worth it.
Have fun with whatever you find pleasing, and good luck in your future endeavours where ever that may lead o7

In the meantime, grab a coffee and grab me one while you're at it, thanks. Cool

I'll be gone by the 20th and no one gets any of my coffee

This space for rent.
Something Random
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2015-01-25 19:46:52 UTC
AlleyKat wrote:


I went to 0.0 on my first day in a noob ship with a civ mining laser, 5,000 isk and a dream. All the while I was using a dialup modem.

Prior to that, I was posting on the forums in 2001 before the game went live for testing, when people were just talking about this game and making suggestions.



How many of us really did this ? I did this literally, once i d got around the fact my audio card wouldnt let me login for my free play, given up then come back and posted a ticket because im stubborn (ish)

o/ wave you probably didnt want.

"caught on fire a little bit, just a little."

"Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangs all here!"

I love Science, it gives me a Hadron.
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#28 - 2015-01-25 22:57:39 UTC
Something Random wrote:

How many of us really did this ? I did this literally, once i d got around the fact my audio card wouldn't let me login for my free play, given up then come back and posted a ticket because im stubborn (ish)

o/ wave you probably didnt want.


o7

Perhaps oddly, I didn't do it 'cause I think I'm badass, I did it because I wanted to go to the edge of the map and see what was there.
For some reason I believed that the edge of the map wasn't the edge, and that the map would fill in once I got to the edge and I found a new system to explore.

In other words, I wanted to go where no pod pilot had gone before, find a new race of aliens, and then **** them - fly back and get my brown wings pinned on me from someone...

Alas, the map was the map and there was nothing new to explore - just more rocks to mine.

This space for rent.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#29 - 2015-01-25 23:02:20 UTC
Explore inner-space instead.

Much more stimulating than outer space, safer when done responsibly and it's map is limited only by your imagination.

Forget rocks, get your friends and go murder people brutally instead.

Otherwise there's always the forums. Cool

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#30 - 2015-01-26 05:49:22 UTC
I'm going toi disagree with the op. being here for nearly 11 years now, the past year has actually had huge improvements over the past 10. i feel less of ccp looking for the next big shiny and neglecting stuff. i see them actually following through with things, a few exceptions like the nestor, but all in all things are going well.

"Wasting development money" is a dumb criticism of a video game company. it really is. for its ccp money, and they need to expand to other products or they die. Nature of business. HOWEVER, the money they were spending on eve proper seems to be going to better use. As i said, it feels like features are less half assed, and and being taken to there final conclusion as opposed to a 'oh we will finish that later' and never touch again.

But hey that's just me.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
Rip van Winkle
Doomheim
#31 - 2015-01-26 15:30:57 UTC
Someone link that weird thread about reality being what you make of it ...
... by that weird ****** person everyone hates who I forgot the name of.

>.>


<.<


>.>


EOL. All people care about is themselves anyway.
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#32 - 2015-01-26 17:14:57 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
I'm going toi disagree with the op. being here for nearly 11 years now, the past year has actually had huge improvements over the past 10. i feel less of ccp looking for the next big shiny and neglecting stuff. i see them actually following through with things, a few exceptions like the nestor, but all in all things are going well.

"Wasting development money" is a dumb criticism of a video game company. it really is. for its ccp money, and they need to expand to other products or they die. Nature of business. HOWEVER, the money they were spending on eve proper seems to be going to better use. As i said, it feels like features are less half assed, and and being taken to there final conclusion as opposed to a 'oh we will finish that later' and never touch again.

But hey that's just me.


CCP's money is divided against their investors and the revenue they yield from a number of sources.

The revenue of EVE is an incredibly significant amount of the revenue they get.

In other words, ten years worth of sub money, whether that is pilot licence extension or genuine monthly deductions; makes rational criticism of CCP development plans completely valid.

I could draw on dozens of examples over the years as I'm sure you could, where criticism was not just warranted, but justified with evidence of what the players did and did not want.

Ambulation is one such clear example - all that money over the last 7 years so people can stand in front of mirror and be bombarded with pop-ups. All the time, they got broken game mechanics everywhere and as you rightly say, they seem to be spending your money now in the right ways.

It's pacification development for gaming.

This space for rent.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#33 - 2015-01-26 17:43:38 UTC
AlleyKat wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
I'm going toi disagree with the op. being here for nearly 11 years now, the past year has actually had huge improvements over the past 10. i feel less of ccp looking for the next big shiny and neglecting stuff. i see them actually following through with things, a few exceptions like the nestor, but all in all things are going well.

"Wasting development money" is a dumb criticism of a video game company. it really is. for its ccp money, and they need to expand to other products or they die. Nature of business. HOWEVER, the money they were spending on eve proper seems to be going to better use. As i said, it feels like features are less half assed, and and being taken to there final conclusion as opposed to a 'oh we will finish that later' and never touch again.

But hey that's just me.


CCP's money is divided against their investors and the revenue they yield from a number of sources.

The revenue of EVE is an incredibly significant amount of the revenue they get.

In other words, ten years worth of sub money, whether that is pilot licence extension or genuine monthly deductions; makes rational criticism of CCP development plans completely valid.

I could draw on dozens of examples over the years as I'm sure you could, where criticism was not just warranted, but justified with evidence of what the players did and did not want.

Ambulation is one such clear example - all that money over the last 7 years so people can stand in front of mirror and be bombarded with pop-ups. All the time, they got broken game mechanics everywhere and as you rightly say, they seem to be spending your money now in the right ways.

It's pacification development for gaming.



Oh I fully agree, they squandered money set aside for eve on too many incomplete or not working ideas, WiS, Constalation Sov, pos', pi, etc.

However, imo they have changed this direction and focus since fan fest last year.

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#34 - 2015-01-26 17:45:06 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
However, imo they have changed this direction and focus since fan fest last year.


So when is Ambulation going live?

This space for rent.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#35 - 2015-01-26 19:58:23 UTC
Rip van Winkle wrote:
Someone link that weird thread about reality being what you make of it ...
... by that weird ****** person everyone hates who I forgot the name of.

>.>


<.<


>.>



Found it.

Had to go back like 7 pages into GD.

Saw some scary things on the way. Had no idea Shadow Raptor posted so much **** in there.

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

Part-Time Wormhole Pirate ツ Full-Time Supermodel

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#36 - 2015-01-27 02:57:47 UTC
AlleyKat wrote:
DaReaper wrote:
However, imo they have changed this direction and focus since fan fest last year.


So when is Ambulation going live?


Well ever since the riots they wont touch WiS with a 10 foot pole and are dead set on fixing everything else.

All the ships are worth using now instead of one like the exequror and augoror being forgotten. The ships like the punisher and maller finally have a dmg bonus. The ugly Cladari ships got new models. Bounties being farmed from alts in pods was fixed, FW got an overhaul, there's more exploration content and the sleepers are invading our space :D

They gave us an infinite skill queue, no SP loss from being podded because there wasn't any emergent decision making being made in asking "should I buy a new clone?"

And they let capitals use stargates in exchange for huge nerfs on jump drives so now random hotdrops are no longer a thing and people that were scared of said hotdrops are actually out and about shooting things now.

The Drake is a Lie
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#37 - 2015-01-27 08:25:20 UTC
^^

Like I said, it's like I never left.

Releasing fixes that should have worked at the planning stage and claiming it's a good thing - check
Not even bothering to fix content because they lack the funds to do so, thanks to investors and illogical development decisions, yet all while claim it's because they are doing so at the behest of the player base - check
Dangling shiny trinkets to pacify the players a tad longer so they will keep giving sub money - check
Claiming they are a AAA studio when they are ignored and laughed at by the rest of the games industry and have no marketing funds to compete - double check

Y'see, it's not that hard for CCP to do just enough to keep players pacified and subdued so they can get just enough funds to do what they want and keep their jobs, and their investors happy. CCPGAMES have got a lot of talent working for them, but mainly this talent is in the last sentence, and over the years have become extremely talented at it.

This space for rent.
Candi LeMew
Division 13
#38 - 2015-01-27 08:50:37 UTC
What if there's more to your thread title than meets the eye?

What if you actually never did leave?

🍌

Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching...

"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#39 - 2015-01-27 10:04:20 UTC
What content is broken?

Lack of new missions doesn't count btw.

The Drake is a Lie
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#40 - 2015-01-27 10:43:42 UTC
Xercodo wrote:
What content is broken?

Lack of new missions doesn't count btw.


The council have a long list of content which is broken.

And PvE is a significant part of any MMO, not that I'm familiar with what's been done in this part of new Eden over the last two years.

This space for rent.
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