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Faction heavy missile launcher
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DHuncan
Long John Silver.
#1 - 2011-12-19 23:52:58 UTC
Cannot use T2 missiles? Is that a bug?

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#2 - 2011-12-19 23:58:50 UTC
No. No faction turret or launcher can use T2 ammo.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#3 - 2011-12-20 00:05:55 UTC
You have no idea how happypants I would be if faction weapons could use T2 ammo.... :)

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2011-12-20 00:08:00 UTC
yep bug
DHuncan
Long John Silver.
#5 - 2011-12-20 01:02:15 UTC
Thanks. Sad

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Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-12-20 03:09:28 UTC
best thing about faction launchers with missiles, is that if you dont need the t2 ammo options, they do more dps than T2 even with perfect specalisation, all the faction guns yeild less dps and are thus mostly bunk.

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Goose99
#7 - 2011-12-20 03:09:31 UTC
They really need to fix faction weapons. I love how 1 mil t2 guns do more dps than 100 mil faction guns even with t1 ammo.Roll
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2011-12-20 03:22:35 UTC  |  Edited by: RougeOperator
Would be neat if faction guns got a bonus to damage with faction ammo.

Just a thought.

Rep fleet guns get a bonus with rep fleet ammo etc.
Domination guns get a bonus with Domination ammo etc.
Amarr guns a bonus with Amarr faction crystals.

Problem solved with simple coding as well.

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Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-12-20 03:24:27 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
Would be neat if faction guns got a bonus to damage with faction ammo.

Just a thought.



Thats come up before, maybe its time Twisted

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RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2011-12-20 03:25:26 UTC
Muad 'dib wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
Would be neat if faction guns got a bonus to damage with faction ammo.

Just a thought.



Thats come up before, maybe its time Twisted



Its totally time.

Sorry I havent been hanging around auga to shoot at ya much. Holidays and all so im afk a lot.

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Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2011-12-20 03:38:46 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:



Its totally time.

Sorry I havent been hanging around auga to shoot at ya much. Holidays and all so im afk a lot.



Well since its christmas i'll look the other way this time :P

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DeBingJos
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2011-12-20 08:11:35 UTC
Muad 'dib wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:



Its totally time.

Sorry I havent been hanging around auga to shoot at ya much. Holidays and all so im afk a lot.



Well since its christmas i'll look the other way this time :P


Heyhey!!

aren't we supposed to be very angry at each other?

WHERE WILL THIS END!!! I DEMAND SMACK!!!

Ungi maðurinn þekkir reglurnar, en gamli maðurinn þekkir undantekningarnar. The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions.

DHuncan
Long John Silver.
#13 - 2011-12-20 15:49:11 UTC
DeBingJos wrote:
Muad 'dib wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:



Its totally time.

Sorry I havent been hanging around auga to shoot at ya much. Holidays and all so im afk a lot.



Well since its christmas i'll look the other way this time :P


Heyhey!!

aren't we supposed to be very angry at each other?

WHERE WILL THIS END!!! I DEMAND SMACK!!!


/smack

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FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy
#14 - 2011-12-20 16:45:42 UTC
Was under the impression that faction stuff was balanced due to seriously low prereqs.
RougeOperator
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2011-12-20 17:28:34 UTC
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:
Was under the impression that faction stuff was balanced due to seriously low prereqs.


Not enough to really call it balanced.

Would still be better off putting on a RCU to OR cpu MOD to use tech 2 weapons in most cases.

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Jesus Rambo
Criterion.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#16 - 2011-12-20 17:47:18 UTC
RougeOperator wrote:
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:
Was under the impression that faction stuff was balanced due to seriously low prereqs.


Not enough to really call it balanced.

Would still be better off putting on a RCU to OR cpu MOD to use tech 2 weapons in most cases.


Not only fitting reqs, but skill prereqs. It becomes especially more relevant with large guns. It's a lot easier for most people to drop the ISK for faction guns than to train up T2 larges.
Goose99
#17 - 2011-12-20 17:53:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Goose99
Jesus Rambo wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:
Was under the impression that faction stuff was balanced due to seriously low prereqs.


Not enough to really call it balanced.

Would still be better off putting on a RCU to OR cpu MOD to use tech 2 weapons in most cases.


Not only fitting reqs, but skill prereqs. It becomes especially more relevant with large guns. It's a lot easier for most people to drop the ISK for faction guns than to train up T2 larges.


Not sure if serious...

Yes, I'd rather fit 100 mil guns that do less dps and can't use t2 ammo instead of 1 mil guns, in order to save a few days of training time.Roll

If it had been, say, 5 mil vs 1 mil, then there may be a point there. As it is now, if you fit faction guns, you'll just be a hilarious km for someone using t2 guns.
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#18 - 2011-12-20 18:00:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Liang Nuren
Goose99 wrote:
Jesus Rambo wrote:
RougeOperator wrote:
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba wrote:
Was under the impression that faction stuff was balanced due to seriously low prereqs.


Not enough to really call it balanced.

Would still be better off putting on a RCU to OR cpu MOD to use tech 2 weapons in most cases.


Not only fitting reqs, but skill prereqs. It becomes especially more relevant with large guns. It's a lot easier for most people to drop the ISK for faction guns than to train up T2 larges.


Not sure if serious...

Yes, I'd rather fit 100 mil guns that do less dps and can't use t2 ammo instead of 1 mil guns, in order to save a few days of training time.Roll

If it had been, say, 5 mil vs 1 mil, then there may be a point there. As it is now, if you fit faction guns, you'll just be a hilarious km for someone using t2 guns.


Large T2 guns are what 7-8M SP or so worth of supports and skills? Yeah, I suspect most people would (rightly) drop some ISK on faction guns while they take care of little things like drone skills. Hell, I had a faction 350mm rail sentry domi when I was a nooblet - worked great.

-Liang

Ed: Also, for PVE does it even matter how much it costs? 100M is like an extra hour or two of running missions and if it helps the bottom line... wheeeeeeee....

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Murtific
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#19 - 2011-12-20 18:09:48 UTC
Muad 'dib wrote:
best thing about faction launchers with missiles, is that if you dont need the t2 ammo options, they do more dps than T2 even with perfect specalisation.


false statement detected... go back and check your numbers pl0x Shocked

Heavy Missile Launcher II with Fury > Faction launcher with Faction ammo (DG ammo is not realistic, thus not credible in any statement of test.)
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#20 - 2011-12-20 18:12:16 UTC
Murtific wrote:
Muad 'dib wrote:
best thing about faction launchers with missiles, is that if you dont need the t2 ammo options, they do more dps than T2 even with perfect specalisation.


false statement detected... go back and check your numbers pl0x Shocked

Heavy Missile Launcher II with Fury > Faction launcher with Faction ammo (DG ammo is not realistic, thus not credible in any statement of test.)


Hey, I underlined the part you missed. And he's right. The question is whether or not you need the T2 missile option. Its arguable with Cruise, but with HAM, HML, and Torps its mandatory.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
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