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New skill book's for Autopilot - Nove skilly na Autopilota
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JB Aldent
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-12-19 13:21:12 UTC
Hi everyone, Caute vsetci, po Slovensky pod Anglickym textom

Please read this thru and if you like the idea give it a "Likes".
If there will be enough positive feedback It will get a green light from the CCP.

I've send a petition to the CCP about new skill book's for the Autopilot.

The idea is this :

"Autopilot Management" which will reduce the distance from
the gate in autopilot mode 1km in lvl 1 and 5km in lvl 5.
And "Advanced Autopilot Management" which will require lets say "
Autopilot Management , Navigation and Warp Drive Operation on lvl 5 " to
be able to train and would reduce the distance from the gate 1km on each
lvl so 5km on lvl 5 .
So in the end with " Autopilot Management and Advanced Autopilot
Management " trained both to lvl 5 the pilot would be able to fly on
autopilot mode without approaching the gate and jump straight through the
gate.
I'm sure that many players would appreciate this two skill books.

Thank you for your time and please "Like" this Big smile



Slovak :

Prosim precitajte si moj napad a ak sa vam bude pacit tak tomu dajte "Likes"
Ak to bude mat dostatok pozitivnych ohlasov tak to dostane zelenu od CCP.

Poslal som CCP peticiu ohladom novych skill bookov pre autopilota.

Toto je moj navrh :

"Autopilot Management" skill ktory znizi vzdialenost od brany na autopilota 1km na lvl 1 a 5km na lvl 5.
A "Advanced Autopilot Management" pre ktory bude treba naskillovat "Autopilot Management , Navigation a Warp Drive Operation na lvl 5" nato aby sme ho mohly skillovat, ktory nam takisto znizi vzdialenost od brany 1km na lvl 1 a 5km na lvl 5.
Takze v konecnom dosledku ked budeme mat naskillovany "Autopilot Management a Advanced Autopilot Management" oba na lvl 5 tak moze lod cestovat na autopilota beztoho aby sa priblizovala k brane a bude rovno skakat od jednej k druhej.
Tieto skilly by urobily cestovanie na autopilota ovela pohodlnejsim a hlavne rychlejsim.

Dakujem za vas cas a prosim dajte tomu "Likes" Big smile
Lola Isabel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-12-19 14:20:13 UTC
gooooooooooooooooood idea Shocked
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#3 - 2011-12-19 14:25:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Jint Hikaru
This is the worst idea I have read in a while.

You should not be able to do something AFK as easily as it is to do while at your computer.

If you want to warp and jump instantly, fly your damn ship!


I get it, you were hauling stuff AFK and someone suicided you and violated your happy place, you got all butthurt and cried a bit..... now you want to make a huge change to the game because you are too lazy to play the game!



Slovak:

naozaj zlý nápad.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
JB Aldent
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-12-19 15:31:55 UTC
For Jint Hikaru


That's your opinion that this is the worst idea you have read and I don't take it from you.

And no you don't get it.

Because it's completely the same thing like if you would fly the ship yourself, it just saves time for the people who are not a computer nerd like probably you are.

Some of us have a real life and work and for example I play the game for fun and for me it's not fun when I have to waste 30min. of my time sitting by the computer and jumping.

If you are afraid that you want be able to suicide anyone anymore don't be because it well work the same like if you fly the ship your self so if you are able to suicide someone on manual you gonna be able to suicide someone on autopilot to, it just saves time for the people who don't have time to waste like you.

And now stop to cry wipe your tears get your self a lolli and next time before you write some crap use your brain.

Thank you.



Slovak :

To je tvoj nazor ze to je zly napad a ja ho odteba neberiem.

Ale nemas pravdu.

Pretoze to je to iste ako by si letel manualne len to setri cas ludom ktory niesu pocitacovy sprti ako si pravdepodobne ty.
Niektori z nas maju aj ozajstny zivot a pracu a napriklad ja hram EVE pre zabavu a pre mna neni zabava sediet 30min. pri pocitaci a skakat cez brany.

Ak sa bojis ze uz nebudes moct nikoho suicidnut tak nemusis mat obavy pretoze to bude fungovat takisto ako keby si letel lod na manual, takze ak si schopny zostrelit niekoho na manual tak to budes schopny urobit aj na autopilota. Jedine co to urobi je ze to usetri cas ludom ktory ho nemaju tolko na zmar ako ty.

A teraz prestan plakat utry si slzy strc si do huby lizatko a nabuduce ak budes chcet napisat nejaku somarinu tak predtym pouzi mozok.

Dakujem
Orisa Medeem
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2011-12-19 15:46:35 UTC
You are messing with an old and deep Eve's chest wound here. Far deeper than the "supercap rebalancing" of late.

A lot of vets would rather keep things as they are, even if annoying and nonsense, just for the sake of not waking up the beast again.

:sand:  over  :awesome:
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#6 - 2011-12-19 16:03:46 UTC
I feel I have to reply.....

1) I am not a nerd who plays all the time.

2) I have never suicide ganked anyone.


What you are proposing will make hauling contracts, and those who make a living from hauling (eg, Red frog Freight) a thing of the past. To make it totally safe to AFK long distances, you remove any value that transporting items has, and you kill that proffession.

Maybe you haven't played other MMOs but once you remove any effort from traveling across the game, you make the whole 'open/huge universe' seem very small.

As for this statement -
Quote:
And now stop to cry wipe your tears get your self a lolli and next time before you write some crap use your brain.

I think you will find it applies very well for your original post.

Fly safe....

Oh, if you really think I am some uber-nerd ganker with no clue, post your idea in the 'Assembly Hall' see how far it gets.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
JB Aldent
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-12-19 16:08:02 UTC
That's nice that you know to write in this mystical language, but I don't live the game I play the game I live a real life and in real life the people have to go to work to earn money so they can pay for EVE.

If you really think about my suggestion the only thing it will change it's save time for people and the suiciders will benefit also from it because more people will fly around. And if someone is able to shoot someone when hi is flying on manual than his gonna be able to shoot him after this too.

So ones more people stop crying and writing crap.

Thank you.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#8 - 2011-12-19 16:22:35 UTC
JB Aldent wrote:
That's nice that you know to write in this mystical language,


What are you taking about.


Anyhow, seeing as anyone who does not agree with you is just "crying and writing crap", I can't be bothered to argue with you.

I will bow out of this thread in the knowledge that CCP would never implement this anyway.

Fly safe... (by not Autopiloting)

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy
#9 - 2011-12-19 16:47:26 UTC
I have a feeling that the right click jump at any distance has kinda made it a lot easier now. That's about the best you can hope for mate.
Know where your coming from but doing this would create the ultimate **** storm that only pay to win could rival.
JB Aldent
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-12-19 16:47:41 UTC
It' not about that that I see it as "crying and writing crap" if someone does not agree with me. I see it as "crying and writing crap"
if someone writes something like "This is the worst idea I have read in a while." without a proper explanation.

All I got is just a negative respond and some mystical note.

I explained you my idea and the impact on the game and I don't see any difference ofter the skill books would be implemented except theres gonna be more people flying around and it's gonna safe time for the people who don't have time to waste.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#11 - 2011-12-20 01:37:39 UTC
JB Aldent wrote:
It' not about that that I see it as "crying and writing crap" if someone does not agree with me. I see it as "crying and writing crap"
if someone writes something like "This is the worst idea I have read in a while." without a proper explanation.

All I got is just a negative respond and some mystical note.

I explained you my idea and the impact on the game and I don't see any difference ofter the skill books would be implemented except theres gonna be more people flying around and it's gonna safe time for the people who don't have time to waste.

Why not just invent a teleport skillbook while you are at it?

We've explained why this idea sucks above, your only excuse is that you want to play afk because of real life. That's cool, get black frog to haul your stuff then?


[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#12 - 2011-12-20 03:18:53 UTC
Use "EVE search" to look for previous threads on this subject.

Not Supported.

How did you Veterans start?
Bearilian
Man Eating Bears
#13 - 2011-12-20 05:09:51 UTC
not joining the argument, just jumpin in to say some people support this. many of you know where i stand, so... yeah.... Bear
Goose99
#14 - 2011-12-20 05:31:56 UTC
+1Bear
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#15 - 2011-12-20 05:38:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Kahega Amielden
Adding more skills governing existing mechanics isn't necessarily a bad thing. However, the current autopilot works as designed and isn't poorly balanced given that CCP doesn't want people AFKing all day. Autopilot's ineptitude is part of why the EVE universe is big. You either leave autopilot on for a long-ass time and AFK to your destination, or you pay attention to rather mundane travel and make it significantly less long (but still noticeable).

I would consider this suggestion only if the default autopilot was nerfed. If there are two skills that each reduce the autopilot warp by 5km, then I would say the default autopilot warpin distance should be brought to 20km. People who invest the training time to get both would be rewarded with a 10km autopilot, people who just got one up would be about where we are now, and people who didn't bother would be stuck slowboating 20km.

There would be a new skill, a new choice to make, and a new thing for 100+mil vets to train. It would not significantly impact the game; it would not make autopilot completely useless for people who did not train the skill, nor would it make autopilot easymode AFK traveltime for those who did train it.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#16 - 2011-12-20 21:45:16 UTC
Kahega Amielden wrote:
Adding more skills governing existing mechanics isn't necessarily a bad thing. However, the current autopilot works as designed and isn't poorly balanced given that CCP doesn't want people AFKing all day. Autopilot's ineptitude is part of why the EVE universe is big. You either leave autopilot on for a long-ass time and AFK to your destination, or you pay attention to rather mundane travel and make it significantly less long (but still noticeable).

I would consider this suggestion only if the default autopilot was nerfed. If there are two skills that each reduce the autopilot warp by 5km, then I would say the default autopilot warpin distance should be brought to 20km. People who invest the training time to get both would be rewarded with a 10km autopilot, people who just got one up would be about where we are now, and people who didn't bother would be stuck slowboating 20km.

There would be a new skill, a new choice to make, and a new thing for 100+mil vets to train. It would not significantly impact the game; it would not make autopilot completely useless for people who did not train the skill, nor would it make autopilot easymode AFK traveltime for those who did train it.

It would however be pretty unnecessary, and an annoyance for people who feel they "need" the skills to 4/5, but didn't previously intend to remap.

There's no real gain for anybody, since all the OP wants is free avoidance of suicide ganks in high sec. And it'd be a major pain in the ass in terms of yet another semi-useless skill to train.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Ethereal 3600
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2011-12-20 23:32:57 UTC
the skill can reduce the distance down to around 6 km rather then 15 that still gives the gankers a chance as in hi sec the ganking is a bit out of control anyways yes i relise that you pvpers out there will hate this but the game is far to tiped in the grifers favor as is i think this skill will be a nice way to counter it if even a lil it will save you a few rage quit subs lol and force a few grivers into real pvp out were its ment to be

as i agree that ganking even in hi sec is a nessary evil thou the reson to do so should be more realistic
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#18 - 2011-12-20 23:43:36 UTC
No. Sorry, but no. Want to know why, read what some of the other replies state.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2011-12-21 02:55:44 UTC
Ethereal 3600 wrote:
the skill can reduce the distance down to around 6 km rather then 15 that still gives the gankers a chance as in hi sec the ganking is a bit out of control anyways yes i relise that you pvpers out there will hate this but the game is far to tiped in the grifers favor as is i think this skill will be a nice way to counter it if even a lil it will save you a few rage quit subs lol and force a few grivers into real pvp out were its ment to be

as i agree that ganking even in hi sec is a nessary evil thou the reson to do so should be more realistic

if a mean old man in an alley with a knife jumps you on your way to the bank, the fights in his favor, you were unprepared and traveling only paying half-attention as you thought about the paycheck this trip to work will surely earn you.

an "ambush" such as an alpha-gank, should and will ALWAYS be in the aggressors/gankers favor, because REALISTICALLY you just got jumped in an alley by some guy with a knife.

TL;DR working as intended, got a problem with it, go hire a courier corp to haul your shite for you, then QQ when they get ganked too.
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2011-12-21 03:06:12 UTC
Okay but make the skill a 16x multiplier one, based on charisma and willpower

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