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Dar'Nalaa
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2015-01-24 13:52:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Dar'Nalaa
Great victory at Uedama

People power made a stand last night against large outlaw forces
Unfortunately freighters where lost
Anti-outlaw forces put the gankers under more presser with EW, shield rep ship and anti-gank fire
One fighter reported to have got onto 12 concord assisted kill-mails “well done him I say”

Another fighter when asked about the nights fighting said
“ So many ships helping us out, even The Marmite collective where on the field , we had to make sure not to get a outlaw flag our self for fear of falling to their guns," but all the same they helped pop gankers, well done.

As the locals added more interference to the ganks, so the gank fleets had to up their ship types to Battlecruisers from Destroyers .
One excited pilot told me
“at one point a whole gank fleet failed to kill a freighter , ship ablaze as local fleets and concord ripped the gankers to pieces and sent their pods running “

As you see a good night flying space ship. Last night we had many 1st timers with us who had a jolly good time, well done to those, hope you learned something, so pop over to the Anti-ganking channel and find out how you can help. With more people we can make it even harder for them

On a side note not many Code around or selling permit, gank fleets where mostly code lackeys and lapdog wanna bes, just griefing ganks now, plan and simple

Code please make an effort to keep the content going.........


all the best Dar'Nalaa
Ozzie Udan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-01-24 14:44:12 UTC
"One fighter reported to have got onto 12 concord assisted kill-mails “well done him I say”



That was me, only concord assisted yes, but low skills in a cheap Blackbird, did some fine EW work and had a great time

Thxs Dar'nalaa

A soft answer turneth away wrath. Once wrath is looking the other way, shoot it in the head A painting of me

Kaelynne Rose
WTB Somalians
#3 - 2015-01-24 15:19:03 UTC
Dar'Nalaa wrote:
Great victory at Uedama

People power made a stand last night against large outlaw forces
Unfortunately freighters where lost





Lol so what was the Victory again?
Lol hate so see when you guess dont end up victorious.

YA CANT STOP THE GANKS!
Paranoid Loyd
#4 - 2015-01-24 15:50:54 UTC
Help us Obi Wan Codenobi you're our only hope

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2015-01-24 15:54:42 UTC
Lol

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
MPaladin
Omega Dawn Corp
#6 - 2015-01-24 17:57:31 UTC
Dar'Nalaa wrote:
Great victory at Uedama

People power made a stand last night against large outlaw forces
Unfortunately freighters where lost
Anti-outlaw forces put the gankers under more presser with EW, shield rep ship and anti-gank fire
One fighter reported to have got onto 12 concord assisted kill-mails “well done him I say”

Another fighter when asked about the nights fighting said
“ So many ships helping us out, even The Marmite collective where on the field , we had to make sure not to get a outlaw flag our self for fear of falling to their guns," but all the same they helped pop gankers, well done.

As the locals added more interference to the ganks, so the gank fleets had to up their ship types to Battlecruisers from Destroyers .
One excited pilot told me
“at one point a whole gank fleet failed to kill a freighter , ship ablaze as local fleets and concord ripped the gankers to pieces and sent their pods running “

As you see a good night flying space ship. Last night we had many 1st timers with us who had a jolly good time, well done to those, hope you learned something, so pop over to the Anti-ganking channel and find out how you can help. With more people we can make it even harder for them

On a side note not many Code around or selling permit, gank fleets where mostly code lackeys and lapdog wanna bes, just griefing ganks now, plan and simple

Code please make an effort to keep the content going.........


all the best Dar'Nalaa



Had a Great time yesterday and last night, I ended up on 7 KM's myself, with getting final blows on 2 of those. Looking forward to keep putting on the pressure.
Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2015-01-24 18:18:51 UTC
Uedama getting to be more interesting eh?

I'm listening.

"Playing an MMO by yourself is like masturbating in the middle of an orgy." -Jonah Gravenstein
Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#8 - 2015-01-24 19:56:57 UTC
If getting on a bunch of CONCORD killmails and "forcing" gankers to use battlecruisers constitutes a victory to you, then I must be the Hero of Frickin' Aufay.

Mind you, I wasn't actually trying to stop them. I was actually on comms with them chatting them up and having a good time while farming their bounties.

My point is that getting on a bunch of CONCORD killmails and seeing gankers move up to battlecruisers is not a victory, it's just another day in the life of a suicide ganker.

Also, keep in mind that, at least according to their quasi-religious code, their goal is to inspire capsuleers away from bot-aspirism. By encouraging your participation...you are actually helping them win.

The CODE always wins because it is a self-fulfilling manifesto.

Relatively Notorious By Association

My Many Misadventures

I predicted FAUXs
Futt Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-01-25 01:08:57 UTC
While the CODE will always 'win' because ganks are never 100% stoppable and they get to set their own victory conditions anyway, This was event was great!

Gankers getting content created by other players banding together to fight is always a positive move for EVE.

Alastair Ormand
Mine all the things
#10 - 2015-01-25 01:39:00 UTC
I was wondering why Uedama had 90+ in local and heaps of ewar on the gate.... Moved a fresh combat alt through there the other day. Well done to you guys for taking action. May not stop it all, but it makes a difference!

I discourage running with scissors.
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#11 - 2015-01-25 01:39:17 UTC
as long as folks can run highsec PvE in peace and make lots of isk, the code is losing.
Damnskippy
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2015-01-25 01:43:46 UTC
I'm just going to rain on your parade and point this out. Due to the circular logic that is "The Code", you teaming to fight them and actually playing the game means Code still won. You seem to have had a good time SO i reckon you won also.

I'm not entirely sure Eve Online is prepared for the day everyone logs on because they're actually enjoying themselves...
Futt Isimazu
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2015-01-25 01:45:15 UTC
Damnskippy wrote:
I'm just going to rain on your parade and point this out. Due to the circular logic that is "The Code", you teaming to fight them and actually playing the game means Code still won. You seem to have had a good time SO i reckon you won also.

I'm not entirely sure Eve Online is prepared for the day everyone logs on because they're actually enjoying themselves...



Indeed, the only way which the CODE can truly loose is if they fail to exist - the moment that any player interaction of any kind is caused by them, they've 'won' - whether it be ganks, or people banding together to fight them.


However, especially considering past progress, I think we can call this a win for the Good guys.
MPaladin
Omega Dawn Corp
#14 - 2015-01-25 01:53:55 UTC
Bronson Hughes wrote:
If getting on a bunch of CONCORD killmails and "forcing" gankers to use battlecruisers constitutes a victory to you, then I must be the Hero of Frickin' Aufay.

Mind you, I wasn't actually trying to stop them. I was actually on comms with them chatting them up and having a good time while farming their bounties.

My point is that getting on a bunch of CONCORD killmails and seeing gankers move up to battlecruisers is not a victory, it's just another day in the life of a suicide ganker.

Also, keep in mind that, at least according to their quasi-religious code, their goal is to inspire capsuleers away from bot-aspirism. By encouraging your participation...you are actually helping them win.

The CODE always wins because it is a self-fulfilling manifesto.



Of course the gankers will adapt, and so will we. That is the nature of the universe, it is the "Adapt or Die" motto. But we are also showing other players that it is possible to fight back, using the right tactics.


But I have possibly have found my role in this game, I've been doing my own thing and keeping to myself the last few years, but things are changing and I have found the real reason I keep coming back to this game.
Sonne7
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-01-25 04:11:26 UTC
Anyone one notice who's missing from all this...........
That tells a story in it's self
Kaelynne Rose
WTB Somalians
#16 - 2015-01-25 05:00:07 UTC
MPaladin wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
If getting on a bunch of CONCORD killmails and "forcing" gankers to use battlecruisers constitutes a victory to you, then I must be the Hero of Frickin' Aufay.

Mind you, I wasn't actually trying to stop them. I was actually on comms with them chatting them up and having a good time while farming their bounties.

My point is that getting on a bunch of CONCORD killmails and seeing gankers move up to battlecruisers is not a victory, it's just another day in the life of a suicide ganker.

Also, keep in mind that, at least according to their quasi-religious code, their goal is to inspire capsuleers away from bot-aspirism. By encouraging your participation...you are actually helping them win.

The CODE always wins because it is a self-fulfilling manifesto.



Of course the gankers will adapt, and so will we. That is the nature of the universe, it is the "Adapt or Die" motto. But we are also showing other players that it is possible to fight back, using the right tactics.


But I have possibly have found my role in this game, I've been doing my own thing and keeping to myself the last few years, but things are changing and I have found the real reason I keep coming back to this game.


Your entire existance in Eve and life is to watch billions and billions of isk freighters getting ganked while you MAYBE jam a ship or help concord pop them a second early.

A damn ant is more significant to my yard in his existance in life than you are to eve

Cant Nobody Stop The Ganks!!!
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2015-01-25 05:07:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
Kaelynne Rose wrote:
MPaladin wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
If getting on a bunch of CONCORD killmails and "forcing" gankers to use battlecruisers constitutes a victory to you, then I must be the Hero of Frickin' Aufay.

Mind you, I wasn't actually trying to stop them. I was actually on comms with them chatting them up and having a good time while farming their bounties.

My point is that getting on a bunch of CONCORD killmails and seeing gankers move up to battlecruisers is not a victory, it's just another day in the life of a suicide ganker.

Also, keep in mind that, at least according to their quasi-religious code, their goal is to inspire capsuleers away from bot-aspirism. By encouraging your participation...you are actually helping them win.

The CODE always wins because it is a self-fulfilling manifesto.



Of course the gankers will adapt, and so will we. That is the nature of the universe, it is the "Adapt or Die" motto. But we are also showing other players that it is possible to fight back, using the right tactics.


But I have possibly have found my role in this game, I've been doing my own thing and keeping to myself the last few years, but things are changing and I have found the real reason I keep coming back to this game.


Your entire existance in Eve and life is to watch billions and billions of isk freighters getting ganked while you MAYBE jam a ship or help concord pop them a second early.

A damn ant is more significant to my yard in his existance in life than you are to eve

Cant Nobody Stop The Ganks!!!


To be fair though...

They do stop ganks. Yes they maybe stop 5% (dare I say10%) of the ganks but they are at least having fun doing it. It might seem an impossible mission but who cares?They are enjoying it. It creates content for both sides and I am all for that.

I might not be the most liked person in AG, but that is not going to stop me from respecting those in AG that at least make an effort instead of talking about it.

So... . Who are you to deny that fact and their small victories? Just as much as you think of them as less than an ant. I could say exactly the same about you.

Remember, stay classy.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#18 - 2015-01-25 05:13:37 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Kaelynne Rose wrote:
MPaladin wrote:
Bronson Hughes wrote:
If getting on a bunch of CONCORD killmails and "forcing" gankers to use battlecruisers constitutes a victory to you, then I must be the Hero of Frickin' Aufay.

Mind you, I wasn't actually trying to stop them. I was actually on comms with them chatting them up and having a good time while farming their bounties.

My point is that getting on a bunch of CONCORD killmails and seeing gankers move up to battlecruisers is not a victory, it's just another day in the life of a suicide ganker.

Also, keep in mind that, at least according to their quasi-religious code, their goal is to inspire capsuleers away from bot-aspirism. By encouraging your participation...you are actually helping them win.

The CODE always wins because it is a self-fulfilling manifesto.



Of course the gankers will adapt, and so will we. That is the nature of the universe, it is the "Adapt or Die" motto. But we are also showing other players that it is possible to fight back, using the right tactics.


But I have possibly have found my role in this game, I've been doing my own thing and keeping to myself the last few years, but things are changing and I have found the real reason I keep coming back to this game.


Your entire existance in Eve and life is to watch billions and billions of isk freighters getting ganked while you MAYBE jam a ship or help concord pop them a second early.

A damn ant is more significant to my yard in his existance in life than you are to eve

Cant Nobody Stop The Ganks!!!


To be fair though...

They do stop ganks. Yes they maybe stop 5% (dare I say10%) of the ganks but they are at least having fun doing it. It might seem an impossible mission but who cares?They are enjoying it. It creates content for both sides and I am all for that.

I might not be the most liked person in AG, but that is not going to stop me from respecting those in AG that at least make an effort instead of talking about it.

So... . Who are you to deny that fact and their small victories? Just as much as you think of them as less than an ant. I could say exactly the same about you.

Remember, stay classy.


Their leaders, like Gorila, get frustrated and angry by their continued failure, and end up joining the bad guys. That's why the real winners don't try to play on the losing side of broken good mechanics. Elite players like you and me only engage when they know they are going to win.
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2015-01-25 05:21:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
Veers Belvar wrote:

Their leaders, like Gorila, get frustrated and angry by their continued failure, and end up joining the bad guys. That's why the real winners don't try to play on the losing side of broken good mechanics. Elite players like you and me only engage when they know they are going to win.


Well, I do not consider the mechanics broken, but this is not the place to discus that as you do in every other threads that just derails in nothing but "he want/ i want" post between you and your fan base or until a the ISD locks them.

If that is not sign about the quality of posting and that maybe people should look at where they choose to fight on the forums then I do not know what is.

So please, I ask you pretty please, keep the rhetoric to a minimum in here less this also ends up going into a downward spiral like so many threads are in here.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
Veers Belvar
Swordmasters of New Eden
#20 - 2015-01-25 05:38:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Veers Belvar
Cannibal Kane wrote:
Veers Belvar wrote:

Their leaders, like Gorila, get frustrated and angry by their continued failure, and end up joining the bad guys. That's why the real winners don't try to play on the losing side of broken good mechanics. Elite players like you and me only engage when they know they are going to win.


Well, I do not consider the mechanics broken, but this is not the place to discus that as you do in every other threads that just derails in nothing but "he want/ i want" post between you and your fan base or until a the ISD locks them.

If that is not sign about the quality of posting and that maybe people should look at where they choose to fight on the forums then I do not know what is.

So please, I ask you pretty please, keep the rhetoric to a minimum in here less this also ends up going into a downward spiral like so many threads are in here.


Well, obviously, whether the mechanics are viable is a major factor in determining if AG should try and actively stop gankers. Those, like Gorila, who have tried to do so, have gotten frustrated and angry to the point of quitting the game, or have decided to join code and enjoy winning instead of constantly losing. To date there have been no real AG victories in stopping code. So, either AG is either staggeringly incompetent (unlikely), or the mechanics heavily favor the gankers. If the latter is true, the correct response is to refuse to engage...as I choose to do.

As far as my grrrr veers fanboy club (mainly code supporters), the best response is to just ignore them...they add nothing valuable to these forums anyway. As far as concerns about rhetoric, did you bother reading the earlier posts on this thread, full of bravado and empty claims? It might be enlightening to see where the actual rhetoric is coming from.

Anyhow, I remain convinced that the proper course to beat code is to refuse to engage them in game...and to push for game mechanics changes to have the police adequately punish them. Anything else is just foolish and doomed to failure.

*Edit* - I'd also point out the absurdity of you complaining about poor quality posting when your response to every post you dislike is to threaten permanent wardeccs against the poster (how have I been so lucky as to avoid that fate?). Maybe it's time to look in the mirror before you complain about poor posting. There must be better ways to resolve forum disputes than to try and force people out of the game, no?
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