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what happen if sleepers start to destroy stations.

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Nevase Prometeus
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-01-23 09:14:05 UTC
As topic above if sleepers start act like full scale wars destroys both palyers and npc stations.

what happen to player's ship & items in that stations. ?

Just imagine.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2015-01-23 09:15:05 UTC
They are taken by the loot fairy...or not.

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Samoth Egnoled
Caldari Provisions
#3 - 2015-01-23 09:57:48 UTC
Vote yes on palyer equality!
Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-01-23 10:45:20 UTC
They too would get tired of the siege mechanics and start thread naughts on needed game fixes.
Then they'd AWOX Goons just for Lulz!
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#5 - 2015-01-23 11:23:28 UTC
First stations need to be destructible by players.
Or we would have Jita Riots MK II over the lack of warning and NPC's being able to do things players can't.
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#6 - 2015-01-23 11:34:27 UTC
You would get an escalation to a Sleeper site where all your stuff is stored with a one year expiration date.

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Leannor
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-01-23 13:26:45 UTC
it would mean, finally, that nothing is 100% safe in EVE. :)

Roll on station destruction and building in EVE!!!!Lol

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Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2015-01-23 13:42:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Nariya Kentaya
Nevase Prometeus wrote:
As topic above if sleepers start act like full scale wars destroys both palyers and npc stations.

what happen to player's ship & items in that stations. ?

Just imagine.

if aything they would only target player-owned stations, since highsec/lowsec faction-stations are kinda needed, since if those became destroyable the only thing that would happen is highsec gankers would just start ganking anyone who tried to stop the sleepers so thered be no more stations in highsec


also, everything player-made and owned should be destructible (and again i say it, in nullsec, destroying a station should be VASTLY easier than capturing it, since its usually alot easier to blow up a military asset than secure it, especially one as vvaluable as a station, so when stations ar elooked at and stats tweaked to make them destructible, i HOPE destruction is the easy-route, else no one would ever destroy them because itd be easier and cheaper to just capture, which would make me sad)
Tim Timpson
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#9 - 2015-01-23 14:12:09 UTC
Nariya Kentaya wrote:
also, everything player-made and owned should be destructible (and again i say it, in nullsec, destroying a station should be VASTLY easier than capturing it, since its usually alot easier to blow up a military asset than secure it, especially one as vvaluable as a station, so when stations ar elooked at and stats tweaked to make them destructible, i HOPE destruction is the easy-route, else no one would ever destroy them because itd be easier and cheaper to just capture, which would make me sad)
If null stations ever were destructible, most people would just pack up most of their stuff and ship it back to highsec. There would be no reason for a trader to risk keeping a destructible station stocked when that station could be blown apart with ease, and so regional trade would pretty much die out in most null regions.
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#10 - 2015-01-23 14:19:23 UTC
Tim Timpson wrote:
If null stations ever were destructible, most people would just pack up most of their stuff and ship it back to highsec. There would be no reason for a trader to risk keeping a destructible station stocked when that station could be blown apart with ease, and so regional trade would pretty much die out in most null regions.



Think more in the line of all station services being destroyed but the station itself somewhat intact with nice burning graphics in and outside.
ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#11 - 2015-01-23 15:23:52 UTC
Ideas have been floated for years regarding demoting player-built outposts from their current "indestructible" state. Unless I missed something huge, there have been no official public communications from CCP that address it. Still, the CSM summit is going on right now, and CCP have been hinting at big changes on the horizon, so who knows what they might be talking about?

Snagletooth Johnson wrote:
Then they'd AWOX Goons just for Lulz!

You mean sleepers are blue to Goonswarm? GOONSPIRACY CONFIRMED!

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Tim Timpson
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#12 - 2015-01-23 15:33:12 UTC
Pak Narhoo wrote:
Tim Timpson wrote:
If null stations ever were destructible, most people would just pack up most of their stuff and ship it back to highsec. There would be no reason for a trader to risk keeping a destructible station stocked when that station could be blown apart with ease, and so regional trade would pretty much die out in most null regions.
Think more in the line of all station services being destroyed but the station itself somewhat intact with nice burning graphics in and outside.
Other than a couple of services which are currently indestructible and the graphical effect, that would be pretty much as it is now. There's a group of people who want to be able to destroy it completely, with a killmail and everything.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#13 - 2015-01-23 16:24:09 UTC
Tim Timpson wrote:
Pak Narhoo wrote:
Tim Timpson wrote:
If null stations ever were destructible, most people would just pack up most of their stuff and ship it back to highsec. There would be no reason for a trader to risk keeping a destructible station stocked when that station could be blown apart with ease, and so regional trade would pretty much die out in most null regions.
Think more in the line of all station services being destroyed but the station itself somewhat intact with nice burning graphics in and outside.
Other than a couple of services which are currently indestructible and the graphical effect, that would be pretty much as it is now. There's a group of people who want to be able to destroy it completely, with a killmail and everything.




That's the problem. The "Play style of making it impossible for others to play the game" would be in full effect and we'll see station bowling for no other reason, which would be more immersion breaking than getting ganked by the Yule Lads in the middle of summer.

Diminishment of services due to attacks would make more sense than complete destruction. I can see that as a strategic move comparable to deccing industrial corps to hamper their effects on the market.

Maybe that would be considered if a day ever comes that NPC corps declare war on each other to stir things up.

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Christopher AET
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2015-01-23 16:53:26 UTC
I will keep a close eye on on my palyers and report back if anything happens

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#15 - 2015-01-23 17:22:01 UTC
What if Sleepers attacked abandoned offline POSs?

What if Sleepers attacked POCOs that were never used?

What if Sleepers used these 'Unidentified Structures' that were recently decloaking all over the place to stage Incursions?

What if Sleepers are Chuck Norris clones, and they never were sleeping, only waiting?

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#16 - 2015-01-23 17:45:52 UTC
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
Ideas have been floated for years regarding demoting player-built outposts from their current "indestructible" state. Unless I missed something huge, there have been no official public communications from CCP that address it. Still, the CSM summit is going on right now, and CCP have been hinting at big changes on the horizon, so who knows what they might be talking about?

Snagletooth Johnson wrote:
Then they'd AWOX Goons just for Lulz!

You mean sleepers are blue to Goonswarm? GOONSPIRACY CONFIRMED!



The only official type of statement that I have seen was from CCP Scarpia at fan fest last year. when he mentioned that they want to make everything destructible. then I think he said 'yes including stations' but that's all I have seen.

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2015-01-23 18:12:37 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
Ideas have been floated for years regarding demoting player-built outposts from their current "indestructible" state. Unless I missed something huge, there have been no official public communications from CCP that address it. Still, the CSM summit is going on right now, and CCP have been hinting at big changes on the horizon, so who knows what they might be talking about?

Snagletooth Johnson wrote:
Then they'd AWOX Goons just for Lulz!

You mean sleepers are blue to Goonswarm? GOONSPIRACY CONFIRMED!



The only official type of statement that I have seen was from CCP Scarpia at fan fest last year. when he mentioned that they want to make everything destructible. then I think he said 'yes including stations' but that's all I have seen.


I have a vague recollection that mirrors yours. Haven't seen anything more concrete than that since though.

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#18 - 2015-01-23 18:35:28 UTC
I hate it when palyers are in danger.
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Solj RichPopolous
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H A R D L I N E R S
#19 - 2015-01-23 19:54:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Solj RichPopolous
Less places for n00bs to run and dock. i approve of this. maybe this is why high sec has so many useless stations, so the sleepers had something to show up and destroy for the sake of the lore. CCP has a very far seeing story indeed. (Please have them destroy stations so that we get about 1 every 5 systems or so, I promise will make for a funner game)
Syn Shi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#20 - 2015-01-23 20:20:49 UTC
Since sleepers are from W-Space.

They would evict all the wormhole corps. If successful.....
They would go after the many PoS in Null Space. If successful....
The renters would flock back to Hi-Sec since their owners cannot protect them.
Null corps move to Low-Sec
Low-Sec pirates start fighting with the Null corps.
Sleepers come in while everyone is fighting and eventually end up with The Last Stand in Hi-Sec.

Hi-Sec saves New Eden.

The End
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