EVE New Citizens Q&A

All right...

Almost done with the two weeks of trial and i will purchase a 6 months subscription tonight. Its a amazing game with a lot of "levels" and I really enjoy it.

After 2 weeks I tried exploration, mining (yark), combat anomaly farming and doing missions. I really feel that exploration is for the big boys. Its very easy to get the skills and basic gear...but to be at a point where you are comfortable to travel low or no sec and very possibly lose your ship and all its tools, you need to have a better bank account then mine. As of now, my funds are too limited to be comfortable sacrifying a number of ships exploring.

This said, i think that for new players, the most efficient way to make ISK is to do missions and low end combat anomalies when they come by. The revenu is decent and it keeps you away from the boredome of mining...or the frustration of trying to do exploration in High.sec with the lack of relic or data sites due to very high competition.

This said, i will soon have enough funds to treat myself with a nice Cruiser. This ship will be my go to "home" for at least a couple of weeks if not months...

My plan is to do mostly missions and some PVE combat for now. Is there a Carrier (any race) that will last me for a long time that you can recommend (end why?)?

I really plan to do PVP in the future but I need to get my ISK rolling high before, and find a nice group of people to play with. That will be my "next step"...

So...what are the versatile T1 Cruisers out there? I will have no more then 20 millions ISK to invest...


Thanks for the wisdom sharing!

That is exactly what you get when you try to post while giving the bath to the three kids...


Yes, I mean Cruiser...not Carrier.



Thanks

Heh, that typo made me laugh. Carriers are highly specialised capital ships that are *very* expensive.

The most versatile and powerful cruiser is the Vexor, but it is also quite skill intensive to fly.

I'm just concerned that, while 20m ISK allows you to purchase a Vexor, fittings and drones for it, you do not appear to have enough ISK to absorb a cruiser loss. In EVE, every ship is a consumable, and just as in other games you wouldn't drink a potion that cost half of your in-game wealth, in EVE you shouldn't undock in a ship worth such a large percentage of your wealth.

Although you can't afford them with your budget, a nice upgrade once you get rolling and have more isk is to use the faction variant of the drones, they have considerably more HPs which buys you more time to pull them in if they start taking damage.

Ex:
Drone Raw HPs on a Vexor when fully skilled and no mods:
Hammerhead I - 1,275
Hammerhead II - 1,530
Federation Hammerhead - 2,010

Agree 100% with recommendation for Rupture.

The Rupture is an excellent Cruiser which can boast a very large defensive shield tank for newer players right at the start. Later as skill level advances, the Rupture can then become more lethal just by doing a simple quick refit.


DMC

I'd go for the Arbitrator. You'll develop drone skills. There's EWAR bonuses built in to get you started down that road. The Amarr ships are generally demanding on core skills, so you'll be forced to build those along the way. Plus, for PVP, they've got all those great neut'ing ships.

I saw this not long ago on the forums...the idea was a VERY cheap solo C2 combat anomaly runner:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5269263#post5269263

Maybe something to shoot for.

Um, cruisers typically use medium weapons and medium-sized propulsion (afterburners and such), so you may not be able to transfer the gear over. The small 1mn afterburner from your destroyer won't do much given the cruiser's tonnage that it has to push.

Also, cruisers are flown differently than frigates and destroyers; they DON'T have the speed to get in and out of trouble like frigates, and they DO have the minimum number of slots needed to install a serious tank (whether shield or armor). So the game expects you to have some of the engineering and armor or shield skills to fit the cruiser's defense, and the NPCs won't be as easy as in the lower level frigate missions.

Whichever ship you pick, you should google "eve university shipname" and look at some of the suggested fittings that they have. Cruisers are more expensive than frigates or destroyers, so spend an amount of money proportional to the cost of the ship to fit it with the correct size modules so it doesn't get blown up.

EDIT:
Medium sized guns should hit frigates as your gunnery skills get trained, and you CAN install small guns if you want, though your DPS and range will suffer. You can also use a secondary weapon system (medium guns + a couple light missile launchers, or medium guns + scout drones) so you can apply the main DPS on the cruiser-sized enemies while still being able to deal with their frigate minions.

And finally, a stasis webifier + 10mn afterburner + short range medium guns will let you close in to any target (including frigates), pin it in place for max damage, and absolutely blast it out of the sky. The webifier negates the frigate's main advantage = speed. You just need the armor or shield defenses to withstand return fire while you do the close range brawling.

Cruiser have more CPU and powergrid, but they also mount cruiser-size weapons and equipment.

Yes, you can install small turrets on a cruiser, but you will not receive any bonus for them, as the bonuses on cruiser class are for medium turrets. Your small turrets will be less effective than the same mounted on a frigate or a destroyer.

Yes. Practically every group working in Nullsec and Wormholes uses Sabres in PvP. Destroyers are not awfully popular in PvE, but in PvP the Interdictor pilots are almost a mandatory part of all fleets. If you fly a Sabre well, you will be a welcome addition to any fleet.

In addition to that, some nullsec groups fly Talwar fleets, as Talwar is very cheap, very vast and has incredible damage application at long range. In a similar way, Trasher and Catalyst are very popular in Highsec PvP. Check the killboard of Confederation of xXPIZZAXx for examples of how effective Talwars can be in Nullsec and CODE. for how effective Trashers and Catalysts are in Highsec.

The new Tactical Destroyers may also become good boats for PvE and PvP as well, but it is too early to say how they will ultimately be used.

As for the question about speed, YES, the combination of high speed and low signature radius is extremely relevant for tanking, to an extent where a fast frigate can (outside of webifier range) completely ignore the weapons of a larger ship. An Interceptor going 4-6 km/s is hard to deal with for anything larger than a Cruiser and for most cruisers as well, Orthrus being a notable exception with its Rapid Light Missile Launchers and bonus to missile velocity.

long term goal i would reccomed a tec 3 cruiser (yeah i know, rebalancing soon™ but still)
they are skill intensive and fecking expensive but you will benefit from skilling into one