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EveMon/EFT/Other program developers ‘in game’ allegiances?

First post
#1 - 2015-01-22 12:06:11 UTC
As per the title, was just wondering who the eve ‘in game’ parties were that would have access to my API information if I was to put my spai/developing spai accounts into the same version of the program as my mains or on different devices from the same IP address?

Don’t think I am being tooooo tin foil hatish :-s

Badel Jramodarr
#2 - 2015-01-22 12:22:35 UTC
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-01-22 17:23:19 UTC
You want to know who in game runs these apps so you know who has access to your api?

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#4 - 2015-01-22 17:34:33 UTC
Was I that unclear, that is exactly what I mean.

Frostys Virpio
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2015-01-22 17:59:24 UTC
GsyBoy wrote:
Was I that unclear, that is exactly what I mean.

You could always check the about and search those names...
Hengle Teron
Rorquals Anonymous
Two Maidens One Chalice
#6 - 2015-01-22 18:02:56 UTC
All roads lead to Rome Blink
#7 - 2015-01-22 18:14:06 UTC
I'm going to have to go with goons. Final answer.

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Quanah Comanche
#8 - 2015-01-22 18:32:04 UTC
Jessica Duranin
#9 - 2015-01-22 18:48:40 UTC
I'd say the probability that the major null power blocks have access to those keys is pretty high. If you just have enough money (isk in this case) you can bribe almost everyone.

It's pretty funny actually how little some people think about things like that.
E.g. for wormhole space there is that mapping tool called tripwire... It's completely free(even though the only alternative costs a monthly fee) and run by some dude in an NPC corp.
If that doesn't ring your alarm bells I don't know what else would, yet quite a lot of corporations use that tool.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#10 - 2015-01-22 18:52:08 UTC
To the second part of your question: You.
Yourmoney Mywallet
#11 - 2015-01-23 03:42:31 UTC
Hicksimus wrote:
I'm going to have to go with goons. Final answer.

Jenshae Chiroptera
#12 - 2015-01-23 03:54:15 UTC
In my case it does not matter if they were spying on me. I fly mostly cheap things that I can afford to replace, I fly mostly the same ships and fits, then I work on perfecting the skills that run those ships.

I am one of those "warriors" (I use that word very lightly and rather self deprecatingly), who wears scraps of armour found on the dead, lines up their trusty old nag for the charge then rides off the cliff to the left. P

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Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

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Pandemic Horde
#13 - 2015-01-23 03:55:05 UTC
I have reason to believe that Chribba is the one actually control of all the third party API data and he is actually skynet.
Vector Symian
0 Fear
#14 - 2015-01-23 04:40:58 UTC
Their is a group of people that have the knack for finding weaknesses in the system..

so yes the alliances have your api without your consent but will never ever admit it.
Memphis Baas
#15 - 2015-01-23 04:43:25 UTC
If you're making spy alts, make an API alt. Use that alt to pretend-fit and pretend-train the skills that you want the spies to have.

EFT doesn't actually require API, you can create a blank profile and manually add skills to it, so really you can check out ship fittings completely offline / with no API needed.

I think EVEMON requires API, but honestly I've stopped using EVEMON when CCP allowed the training queue to be longer than 24 hrs.; you can queue up 3 months of skills and just set a calendar reminder to yourself to log back in in 3 months. And attribute remapping to match the skills should be obvious enough; there are only a few useful combos, really: int/per, int/mem, per/wil, and spy (unmapped so you look like a newbie and can ask for help with them).

Pok Nibin
#16 - 2015-01-23 07:15:54 UTC
I have a pair of noids, too.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.

ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
#17 - 2015-01-23 08:51:16 UTC
I have removed a rule breaking post.

The Rules:
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.

Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.

Also, as the API KEY MANAGEMENT page states:

I still don't like it.
If you are not certain that the web site or program asking for your API key is safe, please do not give it to them! You are responsible for any usage of the information obtained by using your API keys.

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RAZOR Alliance
#18 - 2015-01-23 09:13:17 UTC  |  Edited by: J'Poll
So, they know what skills I have. EFT and EVEMON only require very very basic stuff like skills etc.

Good luck with that.

I can tell you 3 skills you have trained without even having your API:

Paranoia V
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Duckzer Mining Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
#19 - 2015-01-23 09:46:22 UTC
Yeah Ive always wondered if such programs would possibly turn into data mining sites but I still use them. Like real life its a fine line between personal privacy and functionality/usability.

Have you heard anything I've said?

You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.

Test Alliance Please Ignore
#20 - 2015-01-23 09:49:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Ka'Narlist
If you use a program like EFT or EveMon, the only way for someone else to get your API key is if they would send it over the internet to them. But if you expect them to be spyware you are pretty stupid to run them in the first place, because your gaming information should be your last concern if you run software that you think might contain spyware/trojans/virues or whatever.

So I doubt that such well established programms do **** like that. If you on the other hand enter your API into every other website that asks for it you shouldn't be surprised if people use it against you.
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