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The Huth
Cartman's Big Wheel Deputies
#1 - 2015-01-22 17:33:44 UTC
Sorry for the newbish question. I know in the past it has been possible to leave your BPO at a corporate office in the same system as your POS. Then you could do research on your BPO at the POS without risking leaving it in the POS.

All of the articles I have found that explain the process are old. My buddy is under the impression that this has changed, and no longer possible. I cant find anything to quantify that. Can anybody clarify that? I tried to make it work last night, but was unsuccessful.
Auromali Stasarik
Empyrean Enterprise Conglomerate
#2 - 2015-01-22 17:44:43 UTC
It is no longer possible to do remote research as you describe, the bpo must be in the POS.
Hengle Teron
Red Sky Morning
The Amarr Militia.
#3 - 2015-01-22 18:04:14 UTC
yes, they changed it when they were overhauling industry
The Huth
Cartman's Big Wheel Deputies
#4 - 2015-01-22 20:49:14 UTC
Thanks for the responses. Not what I wanted to hear, but now I know.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#5 - 2015-01-22 20:50:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5345680#post5345680

Patch Notes for Crius 1.0 wrote:
Structures & Deployables

  • It is no longer possible to remotely use a blueprint in a Starbase structure. Blueprints are now required to be in the same Starbase structure that the job input / output materials are in

  • Please note it is still possible to remotely start a blueprint, as long as the blueprint and materials remain in the same location


EDIT: This is also a topic more appropriate for Science and Industry than GD!
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-01-22 21:31:40 UTC
The Huth wrote:
Thanks for the responses. Not what I wanted to hear, but now I know.


And that is why they changed it.

Now, to do research, you have to put your BPO at "risk"

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The Troll Bridge
#7 - 2015-01-22 21:43:38 UTC
Crius problems. Sorry, not making a song for this one. The moment has passed.

The Huth wrote:
All of the articles I have found that explain the process are old.


Yeah.. I too find CCP's lack of resource allocation for official wiki updating to be disturbing.

The Huth wrote:
I tried to make it work last night, but was unsuccessful.


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ISD Ezwal
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ISD Alliance
#8 - 2015-01-22 22:14:35 UTC
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Lil' Brudder Too
Pistols for Pandas
#9 - 2015-01-25 00:19:59 UTC
you'll also find that all those "remote" skills are now slightly less than helpful....as in order to do more than a single thing with your blueprint, you have to physically move it into whatever array is needed for that activity.

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Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-01-25 13:44:38 UTC
The remote skills are, imho, more useful now that they work across regional boundaries. Yes, the BP has to be in the tower, but you can be any number of jumps away (up to the limit from those skills) and still start and finish jobs.
Dracones
Tarsis Inc
#11 - 2015-01-25 19:05:22 UTC
Lil' Brudder Too wrote:
you'll also find that all those "remote" skills are now slightly less than helpful....as in order to do more than a single thing with your blueprint, you have to physically move it into whatever array is needed for that activity.


I'm sure legacy code is a big barrier. Ideally job output should be movable between arrays: Copy job on base BPO creates BPC. Invent on BPC creates T2 BPC. If you could output that to, say, a module array then you'd be ready for T2 production on it.

Remote skills would be very useful with the above as your BPO would never need to move and the outputs could do into the proper array. But I'm sure that type of cross array input/output functions are mess with the legacy code in place.
Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#12 - 2015-01-25 22:14:23 UTC
They need to allow them to be placed in personal hangars. Ie currently they must be in the lab. It should be workable anywhere in the pos. Including personal hangar arrays. Otherwise people you do industry with can cancel your job and run off with the bpo
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-01-25 23:35:00 UTC
Sean Parisi wrote:
Otherwise people you do industry with can cancel your job and run off with the bpo


Nope.

Only director/CEO and the person who started the job can cancel it. Been that way for a few patches now (I think pre-Crius).
And if you don't trust the directors, there's a larger problem.

Yes, anyone can still deliver a finished job and walk off with the BP and the goods, but that should be a much smaller window of opportunity