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Wormholes and clones
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Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#21 - 2015-01-22 21:02:16 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
You can't jump clone to a WH, rorq or otherwise. There are POS mods for mineral compression now.

Why would you want a Rorqual in a WH again?

When Noctis is too small, you need capital tractor beams.
Nitris Denitrace
WeebFleet
Tsundere Triad
#22 - 2015-01-22 21:11:26 UTC
MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
You can't jump clone to a WH, rorq or otherwise. There are POS mods for mineral compression now.

Why would you want a Rorqual in a WH again?




Like I said, theoretically speaking. I don't know how a Rorqual with a Vat Bay works, as I also stated I have never seen a Rorqual other than one time in Barleguet.


According to the EVELopedia: "Once the clone has been stored the pod pilot may clone jump to that clone whenever they wish, provided that the Rorqual or Titan is in space and has activated the Vat Bay. "

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Clone_Vat_Bay_I

Meaning, yes, you can Jump to a Rorqual as long as the Bay is active. That is why you would want a Rorq in WH space.
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#23 - 2015-01-22 21:57:21 UTC
Nope. Can't clone jump to WH Rorqual.
Paul Vashar
CTHS
#24 - 2015-01-22 22:32:20 UTC
Godfrey Silvarna wrote:
Nope. Can't clone jump to WH Rorqual.

At least they are pretty
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#25 - 2015-01-22 23:41:35 UTC
Wh's are supposed to be the most dangerous and unknown space in eve.. no local, no stations, etc. I think its fine the way it is.. and yes I used to live in wh exclusively for 3ish years

... What next ??
Crimson Haybailer
Velocity Industries Ltd
#26 - 2015-01-24 02:08:06 UTC
Really, you would like the comforts of K-Space in W-Space. Perhaps you should shift back to K-Space if you are already a WH resident, or stay in K-Space if you just visit.

Its a bit like going to MacDonalds and asking for a Whopper, sorry we don't serve that here. If you want a Whopper then go to Hungry Jacks/Burger King otherwise choose a Big Mac.

I like the fact the WH have no local, you have to plan your logistics, have to plan what you bring in and out and if you have implants etc. You cant just quickly swap things out change things.
BayneNothos
United Electro-Magnetic Federation
Business Alliance of Manufacturers and Miners
#27 - 2015-01-24 05:45:44 UTC
A one way clone jump POS module wouldn't be too bad. Only in, not out. No implants moved. Maybe you need to build the clones with stuff out here. Takes up a bunch of POS resources and shuts off if the POS is RF'd.

I'm sure we've all had times where we've been podded and would be happy to pay 10-20mil or something to get back in right now for round two.
Crimson Haybailer
Velocity Industries Ltd
#28 - 2015-01-24 08:58:13 UTC
I am still inclined to not agree with the ability to clone into or out of a WH. If you get podded then again adds to the risk. Either have friends still in the WH to help you back in or have an ALT with probes. Me I always have a couple of spare cloakies with probes.

Also one reason is as described in the link.

http://www.space.com/27701-interstellar-movie-science-black-holes.html

Yes it talks about the Interstella movie, but a quote that stood out to me is...

"Or they'd be "spaghettified" by the intense gravitional pull, which would be much stronger at one end of their bodies than the other, Trotta added."

So imagine your conscious trying to travel through a hole and connect with a clone system in a POS.

I would like to think that clone jumping is like being teleported on to the USS Enterprise.
How many times have you heard Scotty in Star Trek say that he can't beam you aboard because he cant get a fix on your position, there is just to much interference. Same thing through a WH.


However if for some reason CCP do decide to dumb down the risks of WH and make it easier for people then a clone system in a POS should when online take up all CPU and Power just so that it can communicate and get your conscious from K-Space to your clone in W-Space.

But ultimately you know what. CCP has a lot of work to do with POS mechanics etc so it will be awhile.
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