Crime & Punishment

Reserved to setup a grr Zen Garden

Has OP been through Uedama recently?

Threats to quit EvE seem to be a common AG tactic, once their inevitable futility to stop Code from always winning dawns on them.

Given the threats never seem to be carried out, I can only speculate it is another pinheaded strategy in their "Just One More Nerf(tm)" campaign to turn EvE into the theme park they openly wish for. (shudder)

I dont get it.

First off, i dont see a distinction between ganking and being dicks, and I dont see SC pointing that distinction out, either, which is clearly demonstrated at the end when he invites the other guy to gank with them to see the other side. Notice SC didnt ask him to taunt, or sh*t-talk, or send mails with him. Just gank. And of course, SC admits that he does a lot of Post gank mails as well.

Id consider ganking in the first place, to being an a-hole, a d*ck. You can gank for profit, or gank just for fun, and there are plenty of people who would convo you and send you a mail after youve ganked them, where they tell you that you are being an a-hole, a d*ck, for doing so, despite the fact that you didnt initiate the conversation/mail in the first place. The only distinction is whether youre less of an a-hole, or more of an a-hole, but youre still an a-hole.

Secondly, yes, ganking does provide content. AG is proof of this. The fact that there arose an organization dedicated to informing, helping, and outright counter-ganking, repping and jamming Code, is proof that Code has produced content as the villain, and produced a system of opposition that actively dedicates itself to countering the Code.

Thirdly, we all know that Code are acting like dicks. So whats the point of this thread? Within this game, theres nothing wrong with being the villain. Being the d*ck. Scamming. Baiting. Ganking. We all know this is part of the game. It shouldnt come to a surprise to anyone that people are being dicks and villains, and choosing to do so for fun, for profit, to make this game more engaging.

It feels as though this is another "wow, look at how Code is made up of sociopaths/psychopaths/bullies/a-holes/dicks!" thread. As if we didnt know that ganking is an a-hole-ish thing to do, just like scamming or can baiting. You seem to be obsessed with trying to inform as many people as possible, that Code is a sociopath/psychopath/bullying/a-hole/d*ck organization, as if that would make you feel better for losing 2(lol@ the reason for losing the 2nd freighter) freighters in a row to them(plus the JF). Are you doing this so you can rally the community to get them banned(Again)? Didnt you learn anything from the last time you tried this?

AG displays nothing resembling any real organization.

I lul'd at your post.

No. A group of people that share mostly crap intel and jump in their ships only to FAIL at stopping Code bumpers and gankers are neither really coordinated nor any real opposition.

I lulz at another of your posts!

yep sorry you're wrong


nowhere near all ganks are stopped, but plenty of ganks have been prevented by AG folks
Sure they're mostly terrible, but it's not like they're useless - same deal for gank intel folks.

There is nothing bad about people grouping up and doing things together. It's good for the game as it leads to greater player interaction.

I'll let you in on a little secret. A long time ago, when I was a wee ganker, we had an organized op that was attended by 20+ white knights who really made things difficult for us. I private chatted James 315 and reported what the WKs did and what they did it with and he responded with, "lol, that's awesome!" or something very similar. If we can get a player to dock his barge or his mission ship and actually come and play eve with and against other people eve will be a better place. If you can look past the tears and the silliness, there is a reason we do what we do and say what we say.

Everything is going according to plan.

That said, I linked a loyalanon Incursus KM in AG last night and got kicked. That's just wrong. I have feelings too and it was a sweet one-shot kill that deserved the acclaim of the AG community. If an AG mod could unblock Major Bowel Discomfort I would appreciate it. Thank you.

Also, I don't get why you won't talk to me with your alt Jen? I know it's you. You ignored me all night and then popped into local on your main and say "o/" right away. Again, the feels...

Dude, im not Jens alt, i was banned from AG as well...

Also, yup, agreed with most of what you said. Nothing wrong with grouping up and doing things together, it provides great content.

An AG'er having an individual moment of luck and glory ganking/saving is a different subject than a group of them being "coordinated", "organized", or "opposition".

We're talking about the latter. Stop jumping around subjects like a squirrel, little squirrel-man.

Squirrel-man, you make me lulz.

I *agree* with you when you introduced that you would call them a "group". I agree with that. They're a group. That's about it, currently. John E Normus spoke of some times when there was some WK coordinated action in space against their "enemies". That would be cool to have . . . not the currently pathetic state of seemingly individual acting AG'ers flopping around and failing to stop nearly all ganking and bumping.