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NRDS (Not Red Don't Shoot) Tag
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Esmanpir
Raccoon's with LightSabers
#41 - 2015-01-22 16:03:33 UTC
Anhenka wrote:
Esmanpir wrote:
If we want to go this route, rather than having Blue, Lt Blue, Grey, Orange and Red. Just give Alliances, Corps and individuals a color pallet and allow them to designate what each color means. (Not Mauve, Don't Shoot. Not Fuchsia, Shoot it... Lol )


I can just see Pizza's local screens now. Every eye bleeding color of the rainbow possible, in a migraine inducing unicorn color vomit.


Laughed so hard I cried! :-)
Kenrailae
Scrapyard Artificer's
#42 - 2015-01-22 17:12:49 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:


I'm a wh gal, so I have pretty much equal access to all of null on a random whim. Last night I had simultaneous incoming wh from Tenal, Vale and Esotaria so your 'providence is easy access' assumption is a bit off. As a corp that has been poking my nose in to all of null randomly for several years, let me lay it out for you.

*Snip snip*

My real point about CVA and crew is that their NRDS policy has generated a lot of content for a lot of folks over the years. Wether you, me or the next guy like or agree w/ said policy doesn't matter. They are doing good things for the big big we and they've been doing it for years. I have a lot of respect for all the work they've done to that end. A lot of folks pooh pooh them and throw rocks. Is it irony that folks have been saying they suck for 8+ years???



If you're Red Vs Blue forming up in Amarr to go into null and fight to the death, is it, reliably and not depending on a WH which may or may not be there and may or may not support the mass of your fleet, easier to get to Provi or Esoteria? Provi or Tenal? Provi or Fountain?


IDK where you're from, but is it Irony to say 'so and so sports team has sucked for 8 years?'


Again, GF's for bringing the fights, and for lasting 8 years, but seriously.....

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Captain StringfellowHawk
Forsaken Reavers
Ace's N Eight's
#43 - 2015-01-22 18:02:04 UTC
I would hate to see yet another Standings feature added to this game.. The features we have now are fine.. I dont need no damn "KOS" or "NRDS" Tag added to pilots for me to Blap. Hell I'm a provi Rat and Don't need my Eve On hard mode made any easier. I lived out in "Blue donut land" on this toon and on other accounts I have sold off. I actually like the harder NRDS (Yes I call it NERDS also :P most of us do) Their are plenty of reds out there the moment you leave Providence.. thousands of em and we have to use out of game tools thanks to the Limitations that CCP has on the standings settings. Certain SOV holding alliances tend to be always be letting AWOXers in more then others (you know who you are). So really NBSI was easy as hell to live in, I made way more isk out in better null areas. But I do have way more fun out here. We are invaded by someone new all the damn time, and we are always ready to defend our space and throw down for a fight. I also am not a CVA fanboy. I respect them, But I dont cheerlead for them, I don't hide that either. Not everyone in Provi is CVA and a lot misunderstand that. But I came out to provi by my members requests to take the corp... and I have had a blast so far....

BTW this idea is horrible... let it burn... Stop trying to make EVE harder... FFS.. we already have "Social Groups" and "secret groups" now coming per the CSM minutes

* my Big mouth speaks on my part only and not my alliance/ other members of my corps*
Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2015-01-23 10:15:19 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
NYSI(Not You shoot it) and thank you sir now every time i read NRDS my mind pronounces it Nerds

All I could think of was Not Yellow Shoot It, which I extrapolated to mean that you fire upon both the unwashed masses of do-gooders as well as the dangerous pirates, and leave only the scoundrels alone. I think I could actually get behind that NYSI.



To the OP: howabout a white-flag setting that an entity can elect to put up toward another specific entity or to all entities making public their alleged intentions to all who have altered the default overview settings such that the white flag is visible. It might sometimes ease relations between a newcomer in an area of space and the welcoming residents, and other times might artificially inflame tensions as it can either be betrayed when sincere or used as a ploy to lull someone into a false sense of security.

But since a CVA member already came in here on the first page and said it's not wanted, I think it's safe to say it won't happen.



Howabout NGDS? (Not green, don't shoot) Could make for a corporation kind of like Red vs Blue, only more of a free for all. Okay I'm just coming up with absurd things now, I just got up and already I need sleep.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#45 - 2015-01-23 14:47:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Serendipity Lost
Kenrailae wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:


I'm a wh gal, so I have pretty much equal access to all of null on a random whim. Last night I had simultaneous incoming wh from Tenal, Vale and Esotaria so your 'providence is easy access' assumption is a bit off. As a corp that has been poking my nose in to all of null randomly for several years, let me lay it out for you.

*Snip snip*

My real point about CVA and crew is that their NRDS policy has generated a lot of content for a lot of folks over the years. Wether you, me or the next guy like or agree w/ said policy doesn't matter. They are doing good things for the big big we and they've been doing it for years. I have a lot of respect for all the work they've done to that end. A lot of folks pooh pooh them and throw rocks. Is it irony that folks have been saying they suck for 8+ years???



If you're Red Vs Blue forming up in Amarr to go into null and fight to the death, is it, reliably and not depending on a WH which may or may not be there and may or may not support the mass of your fleet, easier to get to Provi or Esoteria? Provi or Tenal? Provi or Fountain?


IDK where you're from, but is it Irony to say 'so and so sports team has sucked for 8 years?'


Again, GF's for bringing the fights, and for lasting 8 years, but seriously.....


It's not irony for a sports team to suck at all. It is ironic that you can't seem to get your arms around the difference between Oregon steam rolling Florida State, shaking hands and recording the points in a record book AND one sovereign null group grinding another out of existance. They both have a winning side and a losing side, but sports teams only lose based on a point tally. In eve you pretty much lose everything and disappear or regroup somewhere else. Granted, I too wanted the Ducks to go occupy a good chunk of Florida and force Florida State to disband and maybe, maybe someday reform in Maryland and try to take their home turf back. That would be sweet, but it's just not the same.

Sports teams have ups and downs, but they don't come and go. In eve corps/alliances come and go. Very few survive 8+ years. Fewer still have been able to hold their piece of conquerable sovereign null for that amount of time.


A recent data point (last night). We were in 3 different nulls. In 2 of them the occupants docked immediately. In one of them they didn't. The KB only shows us womping on 3 ships, but before we had a fleet together they almost immediately brought a 9 man gang to harass our orthros. So... in reality, 2 regions just dock up. Provi throws a fleet together and fights. Last night underlined my point.


EDIT: so yeah - seriously
Gawain Edmond
Khanid Bureau of Industry
#46 - 2015-01-23 16:04:56 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
nah provi is a lot more fun if you follow NBSI



See what i like about this post is that providence has set everyone who has ever shot anyone red. They have so many people set red that alliances don't have enough standings to manage all the contacts. In short they're not really NRDS they're NBSI that has just gone to the effort of setting everyone red instead.
Kenrailae
Scrapyard Artificer's
#47 - 2015-01-23 16:45:12 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
It's not irony for a sports team to suck at all. It is ironic that you can't seem to get your arms around the difference between Oregon steam rolling Florida State, shaking hands and recording the points in a record book AND one sovereign null group grinding another out of existance. They both have a winning side and a losing side, but sports teams only lose based on a point tally. In eve you pretty much lose everything and disappear or regroup somewhere else. Granted, I too wanted the Ducks to go occupy a good chunk of Florida and force Florida State to disband and maybe, maybe someday reform in Maryland and try to take their home turf back. That would be sweet, but it's just not the same.

Sports teams have ups and downs, but they don't come and go. In eve corps/alliances come and go. Very few survive 8+ years. Fewer still have been able to hold their piece of conquerable sovereign null for that amount of time.


A recent data point (last night). We were in 3 different nulls. In 2 of them the occupants docked immediately. In one of them they didn't. The KB only shows us womping on 3 ships, but before we had a fleet together they almost immediately brought a 9 man gang to harass our orthros. So... in reality, 2 regions just dock up. Provi throws a fleet together and fights. Last night underlined my point.


EDIT: so yeah - seriously


Again... who actually WANTS Provi? With the depth to take it? That every other entity won't come to provi just to fight them? And also doesn't have holdings all over the galaxy? Or bigger problems to worry about.

Another thing you'll find interesting is that some corps/alliances come and go, some stay for the long haul. They may change names a few times(SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBAN). Sports teams have this you know... league thing, which helps keep them all 'fair and proper,' ensure the worst teams get a fair chance with draft regulations' and all that other jazz. Eve doesn't. Sports players certainly DO come and go though. Really that's all each of these corps and alliances are... a player on the Eve map.


2 regions? of how many in Eve. and 1 fought you? Conclusive data analysis. We agreed that Provibloc fights *Applause* NASA could learn from you. Glad you answered the question about whether it's easier for a fleet forming in Amarr to roam to get to Provi or Esoteria, etc.... but I'm also glad we agree you don't know what Irony is.

Your Point? I'm sorry, what was that again? That their NRDS, or as pointed out above, EERBU(everyone else red but us), somehow makes them.... what? Yes, we know they fight. NRDS has nothing to do with that. You can be any standings predisposition and dock up or fight....

Like I said, GF for bringing ships to fight Provibloc, but stop exaggerating, Serendipity.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#48 - 2015-01-23 17:01:53 UTC

Anyway I get your opinion, I really do. I hope you know there are some pretty big players in some pretty large alliances that hold provi near and dear for what they do and what they are. It's not all just math and income when determining value.

CVA and provi aren't just some nutty alliance that does NRDS and some crappy region of null next to Amarr. When you put them together - they are a thing.


Getting back to the OP (it's his thread, not ours) Being able to dictate status to another group of dudes isn't going to go very far.

PRO TIP: Most dudes don't like dictate.
Kenrailae
Scrapyard Artificer's
#49 - 2015-01-23 17:49:12 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Getting back to the OP (it's his thread, not ours) Being able to dictate status to another group of dudes isn't going to go very far.

PRO TIP: Most dudes don't like dictate.



Confirming, most dudes, especially where internet spaceships are concerned, don't like being told what to do. Sorry OP.


Quote:
Anyway I get your opinion, I really do. I hope you know there are some pretty big players in some pretty large alliances that hold provi near and dear for what they do and what they are. It's not all just math and income when determining value.

CVA and provi aren't just some nutty alliance that does NRDS and some crappy region of null next to Amarr. When you put them together - they are a thing.


My mouse is a thing too but my pixels aren't shaking in their boots because some guy at apple doesn't like me using a microsoft operating system. Thank you for the discussion.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#50 - 2015-01-23 18:52:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Serendipity Lost
Kenrailae wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Getting back to the OP (it's his thread, not ours) Being able to dictate status to another group of dudes isn't going to go very far.

PRO TIP: Most dudes don't like dictate.



Confirming, most dudes, especially where internet spaceships are concerned, don't like being told what to do. Sorry OP.


Quote:
Anyway I get your opinion, I really do. I hope you know there are some pretty big players in some pretty large alliances that hold provi near and dear for what they do and what they are. It's not all just math and income when determining value.

CVA and provi aren't just some nutty alliance that does NRDS and some crappy region of null next to Amarr. When you put them together - they are a thing.


My mouse is a thing too but my pixels aren't shaking in their boots because some guy at apple doesn't like me using a microsoft operating system. Thank you for the discussion.


So Chribba mining in Amarr in the Veldnaught is just some idiot that doesn't understand ship fitting?

I think it's a bit more than the wrong ship with the wrong fit in the wrong part of space doing the wrong thing.

I think deep down.... really deep down..... you love those nutty little NRDS as much as the rest of us. I truely believe that.


EDIT: it's my favorite dictate joke. you need to look beyond the obvious. sound it out. dictate.... that's it. DIC TATE..... most guys don't like DICTATE. See, there's just so much more sometimes.
Kenrailae
Scrapyard Artificer's
#51 - 2015-01-23 19:44:07 UTC
..... No.

I also don't get it.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
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