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Kiri Kaneko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-01-22 11:26:38 UTC
Ok so I left University irl and got some money so I can finally upgrade from my crappy second hand ancient PC to a modern gaming one! I've been waiting a long time for this :)

Unfortunately my degree wasn't in advanced PC management or PC diplomacy and I really don't know whats good or bad or how to build one or anything. I want one that's optimised for gaming, pre-built and doesn't require much handling so I don't need to worry about games constantly crashing and needing to work out how to get it working properly

I have a budget of £600-700 however I can get a special offer so can probably get one worth up to about £1000

My friend had an Alienware, but I've heard people saying they aren't that good anymore. I tried browsing through a list of PCs and brands but couldn't make heads of tails of their stats

Can anyone recommend some good premade PC brands that are easy to use and optimised for gaming?

I don't need a PC that's top of the line with the most up to date graphics and technology, even if the specs are a year old it will probably run most games at a steady fps on decent graphics and it will be nice to finally run a game without it resembling minecraft :)
Kiri Kaneko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-01-22 11:29:32 UTC
I like the look of "CCL Elite Phoenix Pro Gaming PC" from here:

http://www.cclonline.com/category/202/Desktop-PCs/Desktop-PCs/All-CCL-Desktops/attributeslist/1175003/

Is this a good one?
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2015-01-22 11:32:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Adrie Atticus
Overclockers.co.uk make custom builds, poke around in there. Maybe the Defender X6 with slightly upgraded processor and graphics will suit your needs and as you're using GBP you'll have an easy time with warranty and payments.

The one you linked will work nicely if you can upgrade to at least Radeon R2 270X 2GB, preferably 4GB.

Edit: You need to configure the system manually to include an OS!
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#4 - 2015-01-22 11:49:59 UTC
Just build the damn thing yourself. Im not even joking its easier that LEGO sets.
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#5 - 2015-01-22 11:51:27 UTC
Kiri Kaneko wrote:
I like the look of "CCL Elite Phoenix Pro Gaming PC" from here:

http://www.cclonline.com/category/202/Desktop-PCs/Desktop-PCs/All-CCL-Desktops/attributeslist/1175003/

Is this a good one?




HELL NO. Jesus **** its supposed to be a gaming PC. That CPU is SO overkill for the graphics card its not even funny.
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-01-22 11:51:41 UTC
Icarus Able wrote:
Just build the damn thing yourself. Im not even joking its easier that LEGO sets.


While I agree fully on this, having an unified warranty is most of the time wort more to a normal consumer than the joy of having to troubleshoot yourself and mailing parts all around the world.

In this case I'd stick to boutique PC's (not brand) and let them worry about possible issues.
Kiri Kaneko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-01-22 12:05:40 UTC
Adrie Atticus wrote:
Overclockers.co.uk make custom builds, poke around in there. Maybe the Defender X6 with slightly upgraded processor and graphics will suit your needs and as you're using GBP you'll have an easy time with warranty and payments.


Well I don't want to get into custom builds since I really don't have the expertise to know what is good or bad and the last think I want is for it to start crashing or get a ton of viruses because I missed something important out or did the equivalent of putting petrol in a diesel engine or didnt top up my oil. I want it to be able to take care of itself and just get on with playing. Surely someone has made an affordable gaming PC thats already setup and ready to go

The one you linked will work nicely if you can upgrade to at least Radeon R2 270X 2GB, preferably 4GB.

Adrie Atticus wrote:
Edit: You need to configure the system manually to include an OS!


I need a radioactive R2-D2 and 4GB of memory... and I also need a manual ordinance survey...?
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#8 - 2015-01-22 12:06:39 UTC
Buying a PC makes life easier. I'm fully capable of building one myself. And have in the past.

But having one company to complain to, when you get a stick of ram which needs RMAd, but it turns out it's the motherboard frying it, well, that just gets painful.

Overclockers is good.

PC specialist is also pretty good.

Is that budget for a complete system, or just the computer? (ie. do you need a monitor? or 2. or 3)

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-01-22 12:09:02 UTC
Kiri Kaneko wrote:


I need a radioactive R2-D2 and 4GB of memory... and I also need a manual ordinance survey...?


I'll throw you a mail in the next 10 minutes.
Kiri Kaneko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-01-22 12:09:08 UTC
I talked with my friend who's really into PCs and building them and stuff, and he says he will sort me out with a good one. Thanks for the advice though :)
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-01-22 12:13:34 UTC
Kiri Kaneko wrote:
I talked with my friend who's really into PCs and building them and stuff, and he says he will sort me out with a good one. Thanks for the advice though :)


Okay, hopefully he actually knows what he is doing so you don't end up with a bad system on a high price tag.
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#12 - 2015-01-22 12:15:28 UTC
Adrie Atticus wrote:
Icarus Able wrote:
Just build the damn thing yourself. Im not even joking its easier that LEGO sets.


While I agree fully on this, having an unified warranty is most of the time wort more to a normal consumer than the joy of having to troubleshoot yourself and mailing parts all around the world.

In this case I'd stick to boutique PC's (not brand) and let them worry about possible issues.


Ive been building and managing my own computers for years and ive never had a problem that took longer than it would take to box it up and send it back for fixing to fix.

It sounds like a good plan. But in reality sending back a PC is more effort than using google for ten minutes.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#13 - 2015-01-22 12:30:46 UTC
Something like:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FS-430-OE&groupid=43&catid=2475&subcat=2487

With windows 8.1 64 bit (you could go with windows 7, but windows 8.1 works just fine.)

Uprating the video card to a 760, rather than the 750ti isn't a bad idea.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Elena Morin'staal
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2015-01-22 12:44:53 UTC
If you get win 8.1, you get a free upgrade to Win 10 when its released or so I've heard.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#15 - 2015-01-22 12:46:00 UTC
Elena Morin'staal wrote:
If you get win 8.1, you get a free upgrade to Win 10 when its released or so I've heard.



What I've heard is:

First year of 10, windows 7 and 8.1 get a free upgrade

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Galadriel Vasquez
Project Omega Industries
Fraternity.
#16 - 2015-01-22 13:27:54 UTC
www.palicomp.co.uk

I have tin foil hat trained to 5.
kardjaval
Curtana Joyeuse and Durendal Security
#17 - 2015-01-22 14:39:04 UTC
Kiri Kaneko wrote:
Ok so I left University irl and got some money so I can finally upgrade from my crappy second hand ancient PC to a modern gaming one! I've been waiting a long time for this :)

Unfortunately my degree wasn't in advanced PC management or PC diplomacy and I really don't know whats good or bad or how to build one or anything. I want one that's optimised for gaming, pre-built and doesn't require much handling so I don't need to worry about games constantly crashing and needing to work out how to get it working properly

I have a budget of £600-700 however I can get a special offer so can probably get one worth up to about £1000

My friend had an Alienware, but I've heard people saying they aren't that good anymore. I tried browsing through a list of PCs and brands but couldn't make heads of tails of their stats

Can anyone recommend some good premade PC brands that are easy to use and optimised for gaming?

I don't need a PC that's top of the line with the most up to date graphics and technology, even if the specs are a year old it will probably run most games at a steady fps on decent graphics and it will be nice to finally run a game without it resembling minecraft :)



do NOT get a alianware.

trust me, i have 3 alianwares, but they are not good machines for their buck.

i recommended building your own, (by build, i mean assemble, and it's not very difficult) but honestly. i know you said you want a prebuilt, but i'm just saying.

here is a build i literally threw together. it's a bit beefy in terms of price but such a machine will work VERY well

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RyJZHx
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#18 - 2015-01-22 15:08:32 UTC
OP:

To be brutally honest anything sold with the word "gaming" in it is going to be overpriced. Avoid it. Invest in RAM and video card, as most modern processors can handle today's games with no problems. Do a bit of reading on the latest (expensive) or last year's (much more affordable) video cards - those are the ones you want to look for.

EVE at least will run on just about anything including dated laptops although you might have to turn the graphics down a bit.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#19 - 2015-01-22 15:24:04 UTC
Adrie Atticus wrote:
Overclockers.co.uk make custom builds, poke around in there. Maybe the Defender X6 with slightly upgraded processor and graphics will suit your needs and as you're using GBP you'll have an easy time with warranty and payments.

The one you linked will work nicely if you can upgrade to at least Radeon R2 270X 2GB, preferably 4GB.

Edit: You need to configure the system manually to include an OS!

+ 1 for overclockers,

bought a €600 build off them and added an Amd r9 280 myself a couple of months ago and it's an exelent pc for the price.

A buddy of mine turned me onto them and we both agree That the build quality (including the cable work) is outstanding.

Most importantly though they shipped it with a pack of Harrybo.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Ariadnh
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2015-01-22 15:37:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Ariadnh
also make sure to register on overclockers uk forum. very nice community and you'll get lots of help. building your own pc is very satisfying and it can turn into a long term hobby ( overclocking, benchmarking, configuring, upgrading ).
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