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New Tech 2 Ships

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Aajal Truth
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#1 - 2015-01-22 04:31:16 UTC
Is CCP done with Tech 2 ships? Seems we need a few more before they move on to Tech 3. After all the hulls are already available.

Battlecruiser - damage, tackle and/or recon type.
Destroyer - damage and recon/cloaky type.
Battleship - one more. PvP damage type or some kind of tackle battleship.

Anyways maybe this is discussed somewhere else but I don't see it anywhere.


Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2015-01-22 07:05:56 UTC
Aajal Truth wrote:

some kind of tackle battleship.


Barghest.

Grrr.
Aajal Truth
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#3 - 2015-01-22 08:25:37 UTC
Azda Ja wrote:
Aajal Truth wrote:

some kind of tackle battleship.


Barghest.


Yes CCP did a wonderful job on faction ships. I was thinking of T-2 ships though.
ISD Ezwal
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ISD Alliance
#4 - 2015-01-22 08:51:26 UTC
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Lugh Crow-Slave
#5 - 2015-01-22 09:15:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Lugh Crow-Slave
because every class needs every type of shipRoll

battle cruisers are designed to give fleet bonuses

destroyers are designed to take out frigates

battleships are designed to have high DPS


and they all have an advanced ship that fulfills their roles

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Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2015-01-22 10:05:36 UTC
Aajal Truth wrote:
Azda Ja wrote:
Aajal Truth wrote:

some kind of tackle battleship.


Barghest.


Yes CCP did a wonderful job on faction ships. I was thinking of T-2 ships though.


If a "tackle BS" exits already. Why do we need a Tech 2 version as well?

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for new ships, but throwing out new ones for no reason apart from "because" is silly.

Grrr.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#7 - 2015-01-22 10:11:39 UTC
Azda Ja wrote:


Don't get me wrong. I'm all for new ships, but throwing out new ones for no reason apart from "because" is silly.


not to mention just makes future balancing harder

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Justin Zaine
#8 - 2015-01-22 11:01:32 UTC
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If a "tackle BS" exits already. Why do we need a Tech 2 version as well?


Yes, we do. I would like a ship with near-BS level tank with a bonus to point/scram range.

Oh wait...Roll

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He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2015-01-22 11:10:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
MOAR ships please! We want some MOAR! MOAR as much as we can.

So i really wanna see you one day after walking down to your ships hangar and after a quick look at all those hundres of different types you would scratch your head trying to remember which one is doing what.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2015-01-22 11:48:47 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:


So i really wanna see you one day after walking down you ships hangar and after a quick look at all those hundres of different types you would scratch your head trying to remember which one is doing what.





"Now where did I put my T2 sig tanking freighter?"

Grrr.
Kalihira
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#11 - 2015-01-22 12:07:18 UTC
Please no... balancing aint done yet. First things first!
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2015-01-22 14:25:16 UTC
Tackle Battleship? Ehm... Armageddon Scorpion, etc
Battle BV Master
Bacon Never Dies
#13 - 2015-01-22 17:26:28 UTC
Azda Ja wrote:
Aajal Truth wrote:
Azda Ja wrote:
Aajal Truth wrote:

some kind of tackle battleship.


Barghest.


Yes CCP did a wonderful job on faction ships. I was thinking of T-2 ships though.


If a "tackle BS" exits already. Why do we need a Tech 2 version as well?

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for new ships, but throwing out new ones for no reason apart from "because" is silly.


T2 and Faction are never far apart. T2 is the reward for training to save ISK really...

So even though I might not agree with needing the ships the OP wants, I do agree with the arguement that T2 and faction are different things. One takes training, the other ISK.
Aajal Truth
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#14 - 2015-01-22 18:51:23 UTC
It's not so much the role of the ship that interests me but the use of the hulls...

I really want to fly Tech 2 Oracles and Maelstroms Big smile
Justin Zaine
#15 - 2015-01-22 21:06:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Justin Zaine
Aajal Truth wrote:
It's not so much the role of the ship that interests me but the use of the hulls...

I really want to fly Tech 2 Oracles and Maelstroms Big smile


T2 Oracles. Now with 8 capital laser turrets.

He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.

He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2015-01-22 21:19:19 UTC
Aajal Truth wrote:
It's not so much the role of the ship that interests me but the use of the hulls...

I really want to fly Tech 2 Oracles and Maelstroms Big smile


Why don't you be more specific in what you are dreaming about.

Give us some more details, role bonuses area of usage etc.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#17 - 2015-01-22 23:40:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Zan Shiro
Aajal Truth wrote:
It's not so much the role of the ship that interests me but the use of the hulls...

I really want to fly Tech 2 Oracles and Maelstroms Big smile



hate to ruin the dream but.....

The main thing you'd get from t2 on tier 3 bc, tank with at least t2 resists since common, was kind of a design caveat. MY naga for example hits as far but much harder than my rokh. Yay for me. It's balance tradeoff is its not tanky like say rokh or drake.

We can also argue ever since introduced the tier 3's have been sources of op debates. Making them t2 would make this worse I imagine.


So what t2 bonuses are you looking at? You aren't getting tank...its a tradeoff. You aren't getting speed (speed tank, tank a tradeoff) and you aren't getting damage (they are already high damage output, see rokh vs naga)?

Not leaving a lot of options left here.
Amy Farrah FowIer
SKULL AND B0NES
#18 - 2015-01-22 23:52:51 UTC
I was of the opinion to split the covert ops (stealth-bomber before cruise/torp change).


Stealth Bomber

Same as the actually stealth-bomber.


Stealth Cruiser

Cruiser size with Citadel Torps.
(you wont do any dmg on targets below BS size) Shocked
Vincintius Agrippa
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
#19 - 2015-01-23 02:33:00 UTC
Idk, maybe im crazy, but I'd would very much rather fly an Oracle with medium bonused turrets. Honestly, It is the best looking ship the amarr have (especially BC's) and one of the best looking ships in game. The prophecy is ******* ugly af. The harbinger is like blah. The Naga is a bad ass looking ship, I think it and the useless ferox should change places. It looks like a 5 year olds lego contraption. Tornado is sexy as well.

Its not about adding more ships just because. Not just for variety. Would be nice to get a few more ships to help small gang or small fleet based support. I still holding out support for a battleship-class escort carrier with bonuses to heavy drones only. I found this beauty on deviant art ShockedGallente Escort Ship Wouldn't Be a capitol ship. Dps~1000-1200. 500m3 drone bay, ten heavies in flight (+1 per level) or 5max with good buff to drones like the gila. 250m3 bay. It is a dream :)

Also, I am completely against BC's being restricted to fleet boosting.

Hope they change the stupid caracals hull soon. And give it some more fitting room!
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Zan Shiro
Doomheim
#20 - 2015-01-23 05:27:37 UTC
Amy Farrah FowIer wrote:
I
Cruiser size with Citadel Torps.
(you wont do any dmg on targets below BS size) Shocked



what would be the allure to that really.

You wouldn't be getting all 3 of phoenix. And if you run the numbers in eft phoenix with siege off on 1 or 2...not impressive really. For the flexibility bombers give you'd be better off tacking on 1 or more bombers to the crew to jump that BS hard and fast.

Well that if too effective being nice and you got this you'd expect citadel nerf inbound shortly after. Which would have phoenix quickly back in the crap piles its been for years and was addressed recently. My basis for this is HML. To fix drake/tengu....any ship that ran mediums (ex. minmatar) suffered.
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