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Patriots did it again...

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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2015-01-21 15:32:36 UTC
Which patriots held whose balls?

I don't understand you. Cry

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

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ISD Decoy
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#22 - 2015-01-21 16:13:52 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Decoy
Can someone tell me why this wouldn't immediately disqualify them? Instead, they are charged a minimum $25,000 and might forfeit some draft picks. It seems a little unjust if the balls were deflated for nefarious purposes.

Or is it -not- that big of a deal in terms of on-field performance? Surely if it was, the Colts would have said something during the game?

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#23 - 2015-01-21 17:23:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
ISD Decoy wrote:
Can someone tell me why this wouldn't immediately disqualify them? Instead, they are charged a minimum $25,000 and might forfeit some draft picks. It seems a little unjust if the balls were deflated for nefarious purposes.

Or is it -not- that big of a deal in terms of on-field performance? Surely if it was, the Colts would have said something during the game?


http://espn.go.com/boston/story/_/id/12202450/nfl-says-new-england-patriots-had-inflated-footballs-afc-championship-game

Quote:

Sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter on Wednesday that the Colts had concerns about underinflated balls after their regular-season game against the visiting Patriots on Nov. 16.

During that game, Colts safety Mike Adams twice intercepted Tom Brady and gave the balls to the Colts' equipment manager to save -- and both times there were concerns about the balls feeling underinflated, sources told Schefter.

Those sources said the Colts raised concerns to the league, which was aware of the issue going into this weekend's AFC title game.


It's a pretty big deal in cold or wet weather conditions, a deflated ball is easier to grip making it easier to keep possession of it when tackled and easier to throw.

Wouldn't have made a difference in the AFC tittle game, one Colts player said:
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Dwayne Allen ✔ @Dallen83


@NFLonFOX not a story. They could have played with soap for balls and beat us. Simply the better team. We have to continue to build! #BTM
12:55 AM - 21 Jan 2015
But it's still cheating and i agree that the penalty should be harsher than 25 thousand dollars (nfl players have 25k worth of change in their car ash trays) and a few draft picks.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#24 - 2015-01-21 17:50:47 UTC
Snagletooth Johnson wrote:
It was a cold Sunday, of course all their balls were deflated a bit.

It happens sometimes.


Funny - I was having this very discussion with a friend earlier.

According to Wolfram Alpha and some knowledge of the ideal gas law, PV = NRT, it turns out that even if they inflated the balls indoors at 75F temperature and took them outside into 40F, the pressure drop from a minimally inflated 12.5 psi ball would only drop to 11.68 psi - less than 1 psi under the legal limit.

However, it was 51F at kickoff, warmer than average, and the balls were found to be around 2 psi under-inflated. They would've had to inflate those balls inside a 120+F sauna ahead of time to get anywhere near a 2 psi drop in pressure.

Somebody pushed the limit a little too far and got caught.

Man I love the internet and geeky webpages like Wolfram Alpha :)

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#25 - 2015-01-21 19:45:18 UTC
The dumb thing is that the NFL has each team provide its own balls. (When you're on offense, you use your own ball). Why not have the league provide the balls, like they do in baseball and basketball?

What makes this incident more fun is that it's second offense by the coach and the team. The first one was spygate, where they were videotaping other teams' defensive signals and building a database. The team got fined $250,000 and Coach Bilichek got fined $500,000 for that. He claimed he didn't know he was doing anything wrong, he was just being meta.
Daedlus Caine
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2015-01-21 20:30:49 UTC
Northies pls go. Stop reminding me that the Jags will never, ever make it to anything important.
Serene Repose
#27 - 2015-01-22 01:31:19 UTC
We love butthurt losers. They make the world go round

Go Patties.

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Private Panacan
#28 - 2015-01-22 01:55:56 UTC
Pats are #1 and will crush Seattle by about 75

stay mad haters

Cool
Private Panacan
#29 - 2015-01-22 01:57:21 UTC
i mean real talk, you have a defense that isn't a dumpster fire anymore, win the damn game for fucks sake
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#30 - 2015-01-22 02:05:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
This might be the only Super Bowl worth watching in the past few years. Vegas betting is currently favoring Seattle by only one point. On Monday it was even. Lots of opportunities to about double or triple your isk or lose your arse on a certain Eve sports betting site.

I just have to remind myself to just turn off the toob during the gawdawful half time show. Those damn festivals of hyper bad taste really gut-punch my faith in humanity. This one ought to be especially special-- Katy Perry and Lennie Kravitz. Break out the Budweiser, Pepsi, Dominos pizza and Mountain Dew flavored Nacho Cheese Doritos!
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#31 - 2015-01-22 10:58:23 UTC
Daedlus Caine wrote:
Northies pls go. Stop reminding me that the Jags will never, ever make it to anything important.


Don't lose faith! They made it to the NFL at least... that's a big first step. Look at the Browns, they actually won games this year and came dangerously close to the playoffs. You can do it!

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#32 - 2015-01-22 13:40:51 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Break out the Budweiser, Pepsi, Dominos pizza and Mountain Dew flavored Nacho Cheese Doritos!


Great, NOW I'm hungry. Big smile
Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#33 - 2015-01-22 13:49:43 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Break out the Budweiser, Pepsi, Dominos pizza and Mountain Dew flavored Nacho Cheese Doritos!


Great, NOW I'm hungry. Big smile


Now I want to vomit.

-k8

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Bud
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2015-01-23 04:52:07 UTC
It's annoying how two teams I really don't like are in the super bowl
Snagletooth Johnson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2015-01-23 10:05:18 UTC
ISD Decoy wrote:
Can someone tell me why this wouldn't immediately disqualify them? Instead, they are charged a minimum $25,000 and might forfeit some draft picks. It seems a little unjust if the balls were deflated for nefarious purposes.

Or is it -not- that big of a deal in terms of on-field performance? Surely if it was, the Colts would have said something during the game?

Cause Vegas already has the bets placed, and the sponsors are already filming the commercials, and the "We Win" jerseys are already being made in China by 12 year old labor.



...in other words, money. The only reason. It's a clear forfeiture of game violation otherwise.
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#36 - 2015-01-23 14:36:03 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:
Break out the Budweiser, Pepsi, Dominos pizza and Mountain Dew flavored Nacho Cheese Doritos!


Great, NOW I'm hungry. Big smile


Now I want to vomit.


Which, oddly enough, just makes me hungrier!
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#37 - 2015-01-24 00:39:24 UTC
Of all the names for scandals, "Deflate-gate" has to be the un-sexiest of all. I'm taking that into account as I decide on my Super Bowl isk-betting strategy. It's own of those things in the "intangibles" category.
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