Warfare & Tactics

Indeed, they do seem to have it all dont they...

Now, I wonder why everyone flies them all the time, and not over just a flavour of the month thing, I do mean ALL the time, for last 3 years or more.

I can at least garantee that if CCP gave Incursus a mere +2 drones to its arsenal, all the Tristan bitches would come swarming the forums with a 100x more potent ability to moan than i ever could.

More than incursus.

Then it would be a Comet.



Maybe the other pilot is using drugs and/or boosts? Maybe you should to?

And at the end of the day you lose or win before the fight starts.

Tristans are like kestrels but with neuts. Consistent damage application up to whatever drone control range is.

The rail-gun Incursus is a great frigate dueling ship but it needs a web to work, you need to control range to the best of your ability if you're going with a rail-gun fit, twin reps with rail-guns is a horrible idea because you can't rely on your range without a web and the tracking on rail-guns is terrible so that's another reason why you need a web for it to work.

In my experience, I fly almost exclusively Executioners, and while they are typically less good at fighting on paper, there are many tricks you can learn in order to become better than other frigates.

First you need to actually study the strengths and weaknesses of your frigate and learn it inside and out and work from there.

Second, one major thing I've learned is that if I'm going up against a Tristan, your first main priority should always be to kill his drones. Killing his drones before you kill him just gives you a much higher chance of winning the fight. This probably isn't true, depending on what frigate you're flying, but in the Executioner it is basically required, because Tristans seem to just be inherently better at brawling than the Executioner, and the drones can hit you anywhere during the fight.

Even with a web your rail-gun Incursus has to be extremely careful over ranges. A fast, skilled pilot in a ship like the Executioner can get up close to you and you won't be able to hit him, even with the web. If you're using rail-guns a web should be mandatory.

Exactly, People just seem to moan about how it needs to be "Fixed" because they have the wrong fit/wrong tactic going into the fights they lose

in that case you're doing it wrong

care to expand on that? I will, trying to explain my statement, i look forward to your opinion.

In my opinion the Incursus has poor range control (low speed, only 3 mids so no 2 webs or a td to force opponent closer) so blaster fit can get scram kited with ease by a lot of ships, or even out tracked by some setups

Rail fit, which i used to love, it has sub par dps compared to some other scram kiters (beams, by a massive amount, and to a lesser extent some rocket fits), and again lacks range control capabilities compared to others (anything with 2 webs or a td), is obviously vulnerable to dual web setups or TD unlike some others (rockets), no selectable ammo type.


Its saving grace, the good tanking abilities, IMO don't make up for those cons i listed, especially compared to let's say a breacher (dual masb or dual tank), that can sport a bigger tank, just a bit lower dps on paper compared to rails, but with no tracking issue and selectable damage actually making it superior. Also, the boat doesn't really have great cap life, which actually works against the longer fights an active tank ship would be best suited to, and a neut or even a nos can ruin its day.

this is the saddest of threads.

"I was throwing marshmallows and he was firing sponges and he won because my mom called me in for dinner after 8 hours!"

Poo-chariot vs poo-chariot? I'd say you both lost.