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We are still working on the plan for converting old skins to new skins. More on that later.

Licenses will hopefully, still working out the details, have the option of being a mapped to N hulls. So we could have a license that gives the Quafe skin to all Gallente T1 hulls, and another that gives it just to the Megathron. Still working the details out for that though and is maybe something that wont come at launch.

imo the ship skins should be another rig that could be fitted to the ship

First off: I love this new system. I wish you the best of luck to a speedy and well done implementation. I am super excited to see this system in Eve later!


An argument that I have read is that they are a cosmetic item. Cosmetic items don't die when you die, but they will still have a chance to die if you carry them around in the cargohold. That makes a lot of sense. Another argument is that the asset you lose is still a ship. A little bit of paint is not going to cost anywhere near the cost of a ship. Also, you aren't going to magically forget how to paint a ship. That makes sense too.

There are a lot of questions about the system. I know you are going to have a another Devblog later. I figure they might be useful to you before then:
- what is the pricing? Are all the different corporations SKINs going to be available from the start? Are there going to be Navy/Corp SKINs for pirate ships and pirate SKINs for navy ships? Are you going to convert in-game drops/LP store skins so that the SKIN license will drop/be purchasable instead? What exactly will the system be, for example buy Kador SKIN then you can apply to all Amarr ships you own, or something different? Are you going to expand the Police Pursuit line of skins? Are certain of the SKIN licenses only going to be found through drops in game or be purchasable through LP stores? Any chance of T2 Ship Corporations making SKINs or is that still a no to prevent confusion of a Blackbird from looking like a Falcon/perhaps CCP will add more T2 ships later?

- Are you going to convert ship skins that are already in game to the new SKIN system or leave them be? (I am going to assume for the next 2 questions this is a yes, or a partial yes for very limited issue skins.)
- I understand that you want permanence with the SKINs so that once applied you can't remove them. What about certain limited issue ships that came with the Collector's edition/mystery code(Tash Murkon Magnate, Nefantar Thrasher, ORE Roequal Skin, etc.), Fanfest/Event Give Aways (Quafe skins and Gallente hauler skins), Ishokune Watch Scorpion, and most importantly the Rattlesnake Victory Edition? These are very limited and after a while may become increasingly unobtainable if they all get applied to accounts.
- Many of those ships described above have been destroyed. I know at least a few Rattlesnake Victory Editions have died. Are you going to reimburse the person who lost it a SKIN license to keep the limited supply of those SKINs in game?

- Most players know that the most successful item skin system around is Counter Strike: Global Offensive. In this system there are "qualities" of skins that show degradation (dirt, scratches, rubbed off paint). So a perfect quality skin of worth more/less common that a well used skin and therefore more valuable. Combine your SKIN system with comments made by the art department about the potential for "dirt" to be added to ships that are around a long time. Would we potentially see "quality SKINs"? (I think this would be cool if there was a way to buy a SKIN, use the ship, after X amount of use/kills/NPC kills, etc. we could unlock a quality skin. Just an idea.)

- Are custom skins something you are looking at doing in the future? If so what would you like the system to look like?
- (Assuming you want custom skins:) Another aspect of CS:GO is that they have players design skins and then submit them with the possibility of them appearing in game. Every few months they add 10-15 skins and the designer gets a payout depending on how popular that skin is. I know there are lots of creative players around who, with the right system, could produce very high quality skins that Eve players would love to fly with. Would you consider a system like this?

just a few questions. I am sure others will have lots more to ask. I hope you found this somewhat useful.

And the million dollar question (OR...!).

We paying for these with Aurum or ISK, or both, and/or can they be bought for aurum and resold for ISK?

/c

Do you think we will ever be able to make corp skins for ships? Or put decals on them like they did in WWII on the side of war planes?

How broad will be the options for SKINs... will all corps within a faction have one or only the main ones aka the megacorps, great houses, tribes... ?

You mean evil pink or evil racing stripes? I trhink that this empires are evil. No better than Sansha. At least give us crazy skinns, not only boring two color variations. Give us what you have showed on Fanfest, those skins, when finished looked awesome. Get this guy who made it and tell him to make some skins. A lot of it.

How about two types of Licences?
One permanent one which you can buy for Aurum in the NES-Store or get as gifts (like the Quafe-Ships) and a not permanent one (don´t know a better name) for all the Versions who drop from NPCs, or you can buy in the LP-Stores. The later would have a counter of how often you are allowed to get your Ship destroyed before the license expires.

With this you would keep the dropable Skins valuable while the permanent ones, which you probably paid real money on, don´t feel overpriced.

Sorry for my bad english

This "painting" scheme reminds me very much of Riot's champ skins in that once you buy it, you can always use it and never lose it. But, as appropriate to Eve-O, they can be freely bought and sold as items on the market and in contracts. So while you don't ever have to undock with it in your cargo hold to use it, you still can. inb4 first Paint License haul is lost on the Jita 4-4 undock.

If these are indeed going to be in-game items, then there is the potential to steal entire stashes of corp and/or alliance paint schemes, which can then be flown in battle to taunt them.

WTB Communist red paint scheme.

As someone who has flown skinned ships before, half the draw is the extra bling factor of bringing out a more expensive ship. If it isn't destructible, this all goes away.