Market Discussions

So I've been a high sec trader for sometime now and I'm trying to figure out where to go from here. My trading results have been good to me and I have over 5.5b isk in liquid. So my question essentially is, where do I go from here? Is there some sort of an "endgame" for a trader or rather "making it".

I've talked to a few guys who say that low sec trading is where it's at but I don't really know how I can "up the ante" so to speak. Do stupidly rich elite players trade something really special or is it just a matter of being more wealthy at the end of the day? I'm looking for a bit of a challenge so I thought I would post on the forums to see what folks would recommend. Any and all advice is appreciated.

So basically start investing time and isk into something more speculative and long term then?

character trading is interesting, but you aren't even close to having the capital for that

but you do have enough money for a lot of market manipulation. that's the part of the market that i personally enjoy most.

I remember struggling after my first couple of billions, too. In the beginning the game is still relatively
easy, because you don't have a lot of capital, you don't have a lot of orders and you can just play the
.01 ISK wars to earn some money. At least I think that's what most people do when they start trading.
And then at some point that doesn't work anymore, since you can't keep multiple hundreds of orders
up do date and stay mentally sane at the same time. :D

I think if you want to go from rich to super rich you just have to stay patient, increase the amount and
volume of your orders as your capital grows and get used to updating less frequently. At least that seems
to do the trick for me right now (to some extent), but I am still on the way to triple digits myself. So I am
by no means an expert.

I don't know about lowsec trading. I never considered it. Maybe I am missing out on something, but you
can definitely become super rich in Jita and Amarr, too.

For me personally the ultimate endgame goal as a trader is not just to make more ISK for the sake of
making more ISK but to find a satisfying way to actually apply all that money.
Sometimes this whole thing can be a bit unsatisfying, because as a trader you're not really playing with other
people. You're playing an MMO all by yourself for most of the time. And yeah, ISK keeps stockpiling
in your wallet but what's that good for? So yeah, that's my ultimate endgame mission as a trader. -
Finding a way to make something "of importance" with all that money :D

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5323514

things like that for example

profit is about 200b on that topic, took me maybe 10 hours of labour

You can always just move into more expensive markets. At <10B you've got lots of stuff that you can still trade. Trading isn't rocket science; it's just takes work on the front end.

5.5b is just the beginning - I started with exactly that amount one year ago and at first I was very cautious and invested on certain items...What I found out is that the more ISK you have, the more you make, ofc you make mistakes, but you learn from them.

As I get richer and richer I simply expand the areas where I work...However, at some point imma get crazy if I trade with half the items on the market, so the better choice would be to trade with bigger volumes and update orders less often, ofc you have the risk of locking a lot of ISK due to market fluctuations, but hey, that's why I love EVE. I reckon once you get past the 100b it's going to be a whole new level, but that what we have MD for, I see people investing trillions on bonds, loans, character bazaar, etc...There's no limit really.

PS. I still have 2 caps sitting in there for over 6 months waiting for the price to rise again, so as Yoda said - "Patience, my young padawan!" -and you will achieve mastery! :)

With only 5 B of working capital you shouldn't have the 'troubles' you speak of.Just go for more expensive or rare items.In my own experience the troubles start around the 50 - 100 B mark but even then a small adjustment or another way of trade aside of your regular stuff should be easy to find.For me that was expanding in regions , wich you can do with any type of trade but there are other options as mentioned above like manipulation.

Once you hoover over the 100 B mark it get's interesting as you then can start up sideprojects with a low time investment .The character trades above for example or BPO trading.Just basic stuff wich takes a few hours a week AT MOST yet keep the instream of isk steady.

If you're allready struggling with the capital you have then ,in my opinion , you're too much focussed on the way of trading you are currently doing and should try and think a bit outside of that box for yourself.Input from others on what/how to trade is nice but it's allways a question if that type of trade suits you.

0-1b start phase
1-5b learning the basics
5-10b understanding the basics
10-50b mastering the basics
50-150b understanding trade niches
150b+ mastering trade niches


Still trying to master the trade niches